We took the two old Toyotas up Chihuahua gulch today. The water crossing at trailsoffroad waypoint 5 was about a foot deep, with a 4 foot drift on the far shore. Tried winching up it but we were just dragging the rock anchors downhill. Half an hour of shoveling and I broke through with a bit of lighter winching. The trail still has 2 foot drifts at waypoint 6, they're totally winch/bashable but with rain setting in we turned back. Other standing water up that point gets up to 2 feet deep right now.