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    So...

    I sold my 4Runner and got a Ram Rebel... it is stock, WIDE and long, but has a rear locker, 3.92s... it will be our primary vehicle when pulling our off road camper to farther away locations and "not narrow" places.

    My 4Runner was a great truck and we built it conservatively with function in mind - but even with 4.88 gears it was not always happy pulling our off-road camper (the tow rating for the 4Runner is 5k and the Patron is 3700 empty).
    We still have the wife's Gladiator Rubicon for off road trails that the Rebel won't fit on and day trips. Still not sure yet what the difference is going to be, on most trails, between the Rebel and Gladiator other than width, length, and a bit of turning radius.

    This year will be a re-learning year since we have always had an XJ, JK, or 4Runner for trails.
    Kinda sad since the 4Runner took us to some places we might not get to now - without damage... (scratches and little dings don't count)

    Any advice on here or on the trails when we meet is appreciated!

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    Default Re: Nothing but "larger" trucks for us now



    DaveO previously posted:
    "So...

    I sold my 4Runner and got a Ram Rebel... it is stock, WIDE and long, but has a rear locker, 3.92s... it will be our primary vehicle when pulling our off road camper to farther away locations and "not narrow" places.

    My 4Runner was a great truck and we built it conservatively with function in mind - but even with 4.88 gears it was not always happy pulling our off-road camper (the tow rating for the 4Runner is 5k and the Patron is 3700 empty).
    We still have the wife's Gladiator Rubicon for off road trails that the Rebel won't fit on and day trips. Still not sure yet what the difference is going to be, on most trails, between the Rebel and Gladiator other than width, length, and a bit of turning radius.

    This year will be a re-learning year since we have always had an XJ, JK, or 4Runner for trails.
    Kinda sad since the 4Runner took us to some places we might not get to now - without damage... (scratches and little dings don't count)

    Any advice on here or on the trails when we meet is appreciated!"

    You've started down a dangerous path with only one destination -- ram power wagon.

    Congrats on the truck

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    congrats on the Rebel


    that gladiator can take most places, do you not want to wheel with it?

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    TDash previously posted:
    "congrats on the Rebel


    that gladiator can take most places, do you not want to wheel with it?"

    Thanks!
    We will definitely wheel the Gladiator since it is way more capable than the Ram, but the Ram pulls the camper so much better and fits our dog in the back seat better that it will be the go-to when we camp. (1st world problem)
    I will have to get used to the size difference of both compared to the truck I wheeled for the last five years.

    Plus the Gladiator is "hers" and she has declared "no lift", she is fine with the bumper and winch and when the tires wear out the new ones will be bigger - I may put on a small spacer up front to counter the bumper and winch weight but don't tell her...

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    I started on this forum with a 2017 Rebel and ended up denting and scratching the **** out of it..... bought a couple TJ's to wheel in and traded the Rebel for a 2018 Powerwagon. If your trailer is on the smaller side then the Rebel should be fine, I have an Airstream and the Rebel just felt a little unstable with and the Powerwagon feels much more planted towing (26 foot). The Powerwagon is also light years better offloading than the Rebel, it's just as capable as built Rubinons but the tight trails still can wreak havoc (I have the scratches, gouges and dents to attest).

    Best stick to wider trails, I'm happy to let you know of any trails I've done that are FULL SIZE friendly and those that aren't, just hit me up!
         
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    RockyMtRebel previously posted:
    "I started on this forum with a 2017 Rebel and ended up denting and scratching the **** out of it..... bought a couple TJ's to wheel in and traded the Rebel for a 2018 Powerwagon. If your trailer is on the smaller side then the Rebel should be fine, I have an Airstream and the Rebel just felt a little unstable with and the Powerwagon feels much more planted towing (26 foot). The Powerwagon is also light years better offloading than the Rebel, it's just as capable as built Rubinons but the tight trails still can wreak havoc (I have the scratches, gouges and dents to attest).

    Best stick to wider trails, I'm happy to let you know of any trails I've done that are FULL SIZE friendly and those that aren't, just hit me up!"


    The trailer is small-ish just heavy for its size (a Black Series Patron). I almost went Power Wagon but 90% of the time it'll be on the road.
    Glad to hear of the trails that are full-size friendly - we get scratches on the Gladiator so I know we will on the Ram too but it doesn't hurt to avoid dents when possible.

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    almost every trail is full-size if you try hard enough and don't care about consequences lol

    (except for T-33 from what I am told)

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    Default Re: Nothing but "larger" trucks for us now



    TDash previously posted:
    "(except for T-33 from what I am told)"

    T-33 is now full size capable... because enough full size or side-by-side's have taken out the trees that made the tight zig-zag. The overall trail is wider now too - with more passing pullouts than before (likely because of the increased side-by-side traffic).


    Of note - the side-by-side rental business I believe has been shut down. I think the technicality was they were not street licensed and some of the Bunce "road" is actually county road property vs. private property.

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