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    I bought three.

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    Step 1: Verify the sledgehammer and crowbar I keep in the back have not come loose and killed me.
    Step 2: Verify the knives in my pocket and glove box have not managed to kill me.
    Step 3: Use any combination of these needed to escape.

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    speedkills previously posted:
    "Step 1: Verify the sledgehammer and crowbar I keep in the back have not come loose and killed me.
    Step 2: Verify the knives in my pocket and glove box have not managed to kill me.
    Step 3: Use any combination of these needed to escape."

    If you watched the entire video,
    1. You likely wll not be able to get them from the back in time before you die.
    2. They demonstrated several of those items will not easily break the glass or easily cut the seat belt.
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    I'll admit I did not watch a 37 minute video on how to cut a nylon strap and break safety glass, but if you are saying my pocket knife can't cut a seatbelt and my 4lb sledgehammer can't break some safety glass then color me surprised.

    Also, I was joking.

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    I'm now picturing those guys trying reallllllly hard to open a jar of pickles, each one finally saying its impossible to open then one of their wives coming out with a special jar opening tool to show me how easy it can be with the right tool for the job

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    Oh man, I watched 5 minutes and it was exactly what I expected. Like someone took a class on how to touch a window with a rock and a hammer without breaking it.

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    These guys recover dead bodies from submerged vehicles all the time where the people couldn’t escape. They know what they are talking about. A $7 item that attaches to ones key chain that cuts seat belts and breaks windows is much safer than a sledge hammer in the back of your vehicle since you couldn’t get to it in time. i strongly suggest you watch this, you would likely change your attitude.
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    I did watch it, I didn't change my attitude. Not meaning to offend you Tom, they are totally trying not to break the windows when they aren't using that tool. I am confident in my ability to cut my seatbelt and break my window with my knife which is always in my front pocket where I can easily reach it, but I am only mocking their late night TV commercial style, not anyone who buys the tool. It was obvious immediately, like when he limp wristed taps the rock against the window 5 minutes in that they were not trying to break the window with the hammer or rock to me, but I guess it was quite convincing to you. That's fine, but I gave it 37 minutes I won't get back, and wasn't convinced that a car window can not be broken by any tool in the universe except the one they are demonstrating. If only it were true I would still have all of the gear stolen out of my car the last two times someone busted my car window out.

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    For what it's worth Tom, here is a list of things I have personally seen break a car window, as in live not on a video.
    1. A skateboard key (tool for adjusting skateboard trucks)
    2. A spark plug
    3. An elbow. There was blood after.
    4. A fist. There was blood after.
    5. A rock.
    6. The back of a knife.

    I've recovered a number of dead bodies in my younger days as well, none of it I found very relevant to breaking windows but if you find it adds credibility somehow I worked for a funeral home for 3 years. I've also cremated 182 people so I guess that makes me the resident expert on fire safety by their standards.

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    *FBI has entered the chat*

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    Yeah, troubled youth and all of that. None of the above were broken by me, just in the vicinity of me, but I did leave a 7th off of the list I did do. Rear window of my van with a dirt bike handlebar. That one was frustrating, leaned the dirtbike up against the rear of the van, it did that thing bikes do where the bars turned and it leaned into the van, busting out the rear window. Got to be reminded of my stupidity the whole way home hearing the wind whistle through the broken out window.

    The elbow was especially funny, we took a guys keys because he was way to drunk to drive home. After begging for 10 minutes he said "screw you guys" put his elbow through his passenger window, grabbed his spare keys from inside his car, wrapped his flannel around his bleeding arm and drove off.

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    i've thoroughly enjoyed this thread, thank you both

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    I looked it up and tempered glass breaks somewhere around 20,000 PSI. Not much force is required on a hard, sharp point to get to that value, which is how those little window breaking tools work. For example, a 10 mil x 10 mil point only requires a 2 pound force to initiate a break. Once the break starts it propagates throughout the sheet which shatters into tiny pieces because of the internal stresses of the tempering. Windshields include a tough plastic sheet in the center that helps distribute force and also keeps shattered pieces together.

    Any sharp knife will cut a seat belt, it’s only nylon webbing. The other day I used my EDC knife to easily cut a piece of surplus military cargo parachute webbing which is two or three times as thick as a seatbelt (I do keep my knife sharp). It’s certainly safer to use a special shrouded cutter rather than an open blade, but both work.

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    Good thing a 9 mil fires under water.
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