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    Taking a guess you probably have a NP231 transfer case which is 2.72:1. Can be converted as Jim said with a Terra low kit to 4:1. Down side with this setup is the number of planetary gears makes it much weaker than the NP241OR 4:1.
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    FINOCJ previously posted:
    "Be happy to help you with setting up new gears and installing locker"

    Thanks James, considering I had the front-end exploded while installing the JKS lift it shouldn't be hard to pull it all apart again. Still on jack-stands getting ready for rear install. I'm out another week or two on getting this thing rolling at this point.



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    "Taking a guess you probably have a NP231 transfer case"

    It does, not interested in the Terra low kit. It's overkill for what I have in-mind for this vehicle.

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    I can help installing gears as well. I have plenty of tools and setup bearings for the D30 and D44.

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    Somewhere in the back of my mind...is the rear axle a D44 or a D35? Before going a spending much money on upgrading a D35 rear, you may want to do a bit of research and decide if that is the right path. Not saying a D35 is the wrong path (I think Jim still runs one in his YJ with a locker etc), just something to consider and make the right decision for you. Nothing worse than putting a bunch of money into something that you end up wanting/needing to change out in the near future (I am really good as wasting money this way).
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    TJ came stock with a 35. The 44 was optional.

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    FINOCJ previously posted:
    "Not saying a D35 is the wrong path (I think Jim still runs one in his YJ with a locker etc)"

    I think I saw a D30/D35 comment above and my thought was the same - use caution on upgrading it.

    As for me, while I have the HPD30 in front (ARB locked), the rear was swapped out to an unknown year D44 (ARB locked) with ?likely? some upgraded axle kit.

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    What I hear is "buy a different used Jeep that's already geared properly and swap the axle". Or hit a pick-and-pull.

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    Or throw some 31s on it and wheel it hard as is....
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    FINOCJ previously posted:
    "Or throw some 31s on it and wheel it hard as is...."

    Hold muh beer...

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    FINOCJ previously posted:
    "Or throw some 31s on it and wheel it hard as is...."

    This is where my mind goes when looking at all the cost/time of everything. I wheeled the crap out of the basically stock 4runner I had when I first started hanging out with y'all. It wouldn't hurt to step back and assess the bigger picture. It'll give me time to figure out a good upgrade path and having the money to throw a Dana 44 on there with disc brakes would be a sweet option, in addition to adding the appropriate mods like adjustable control arms and "hardening" the chassis before I start putting big beefy tires and a locker on there. Having big tires is cool when you wanna show off to your homies at the mall but a country boy makes due with what he's got.

    It seems we've come full circle as my intuition told me going with 31's at first would be the most cost effective way to get out there and have fun.

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    There’s a few tj Dana 44’s on Craigslist even a tj rubicon 44 as well.

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    Yeah, I saw them. Don't have room in the budget to drop on $1200 axles at the moment.

    Got more parts in today to perform this little tweak to add some cheap beef to the steering linkage: https://wranglertjforum.com/threads/...nversion.2373/

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    derf previously posted:
    "I can help installing gears as well. I have plenty of tools and setup bearings for the D30 and D44."

    Good to know! I really want to learn too! I have to do mine soon. Have nearly everything to put together my axles.

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    i have the ZJ upgrade too, awesome bang for your buck. Have you seen this site for TJ stuff https://www.stu-offroad.com/

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    Paul previously posted:
    "Have you seen this site for TJ stuff https://www.stu-offroad.com/"

    I have not but I love detailed writeups like this. Been l digging through the TJWrangler forums and this guy's site is a little gold mine: http://www.4x4xplor.com/mods-TJ.html

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    I've been agonizing about how stupid bumpstop extensions are (upper) because they contact the springs at full flex. I wanna get as much flex out of this thing at the ride height it'll have so I've been doing my homework. It started with looking at how stuff the JKS lower front control arms are and wondering "How does the stiffness compare to stock?" so off to the garage with a little experiment.

    The front axle travel was tested with stock components then against the jks lower control arms and extended bumpstops. Lo and behold the stock configuration flexed better. You might ask yourself "Why? Isn't aftermarket better?" well that's what I thought too but upon observation I noticed the stock bent steel control arms actually twist quite a bit whereas the DOM tubing don't and rely on the rubber bushing to do all the work. The beefier aftermarket control arms while stout will put more strain on the brackets holding them to the body/axle. Hmm...

    Why's this important? I'm building this Jeep to be as minimal but capable as I can and taking things into consideration as I upgrade it to fit that role.

    Thus leads me to bumpstops... How can I avoid using aftermarket bumpstops that interfere with the spring travel? Some digging around lead me to some fellas talking about drilling holes in hockey pucks and mounting them to the top of the front spring perches. Well after about 2 whole seconds of thought and a quick look at the axle I happily gave Amazon 13 whole dollars for 6 lovely little rubber pucks. This is the result and my experimentation.

    Mock flex with hockey puck bump stops:




    I had read about people having issues with aftermarket adjustable front track bars having clearance issues, well it definitely has more than 1/2 inch clearance so that's good.




    Proof of concept is ready for action. Gotta check clearance with tires on but I'm really liking what I'm seeing here.



    That's all for my random evening ramblings and fiddling with things.

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    I used hockey pucks on my jk. Just contact rubber cemented them in. Got em for a couple bucks from play it again sports.
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    Hot.




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    Oh yeah that's the stuff

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