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    Looking for a hi lift jack for the new TJ. It has a 4 inch lift so the jack with have to be long enough for that
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    Just gave my old one to PeterCbaby, sorry!

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    Just buy a good tall bottle jack.

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    newracer previously posted:
    "Just buy a good tall bottle jack."

    While bottle jacks are great for lifting things a small ways, they could never replace a good Hi Lift. Hi Lifts can be such a useful tool. Can be used to stretch, pull, lift, lower, and many other things. Answer me this, how can one easily use a bottle jack as a come-along? Could a bottle jack be used as a trail steering link? Use as trail enforcement for any straight link?

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    Brucker previously posted:
    "While bottle jacks are great for lifting things a small ways, they could never replace a good Hi Lift. Hi Lifts can be such a useful tool. Can be used to stretch, pull, lift, lower, and many other things. Answer me this, how can one easily use a bottle jack as a come-along? Could a bottle jack be used as a trail steering link? Use as trail enforcement for any straight link?"

    I am not saying they are not useful but for changing a tire a bottle jack is easier and a lot safer. I carried a hi-lift on my TJ for almost 10 years, never used it. In all my wheeling I have only seen one used one time, to push a rig sideways when stuck on a rock inside the rear wheel. Could have used a winch but it was faster to grab the hi-lift. Lastly a lot of people think you need one so almost everyone has one. If I was going out by myself on a further trip I might carry mine.

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    I appreciate the suggestions 😁 I do have a relatively high bottle jack I forgot about so I will throw that in the truck for now. I will at least be able to change a tire then haha. Going to still keep my eyes peeled for a secondhand hi lift (been trying to get more stuff secondhand these days than buying new)
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    newracer previously posted:
    "for almost 10 years, never used it"

    I have heard this by many people, many times but will say I've seen a hi-lift used now 4 times and I've only been wheeling a short time with not many runs, so I know for me personally, I definitely want to have one with me

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    I have a brand new one, never used! Wife got for my black jeep two Christmasís ago but they scare me so itís been sitting in the garage for a couple years
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    I've also stopped carrying mine, I have it on my trailer but rarely with me. I carry an OEM Toyota bottle jack from an FJ60 I used to have, plus the OEM bottle jack on my Jeep. The most important thing I carry with it is two 10" x 10" squares of stacked and glued 3/4" plywood, fourlayers thick. It makes up for some ofthe lift / tires and gives me a good base, so far it's been great for everything.

    If you want to save some money on a hi-lift get the Harbor Freight one. https://www.harborfreight.com/42-inc...&cid=go_social It's the one I've been using for years, works great, and I rebuilt it a few years back with the Hi-lift kit. The springs and main shaft fit right in, looked just like what came out. I can't swear to it, but I believe it is the identical jack to the Hi-Lift stamped version.

    Here's both jacks in action on the best FR4x4 trail fix ever (my opinion):


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    hard to beat $50!

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    TDash previously posted:
    "I have heard this by many people, many times but will say I've seen a hi-lift used now 4 times and I've only been wheeling a short time with not many runs, so I know for me personally, I definitely want to have one with me"

    What were the uses?

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    Steve-O previously posted:
    "I appreciate the suggestions  I do have a relatively high bottle jack I forgot about so I will throw that in the truck for now. I will at least be able to change a tire then haha. Going to still keep my eyes peeled for a secondhand hi lift (been trying to get more stuff secondhand these days than buying new)"

    There are several on Facebook Marketplace starting at $60.

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    The problem with many of the cheaper jacks is the handle is fixed to the jack. This makes you have to cut it if you need to use it as a sleeve. If you bend a steering linkage you can bend it back and sleeve it with handle to get off the trail. Without it being sleeved it will continue to bend and eventually break. With the attachments available for hi lift jacks they have many more uses than they used to have. We always make sure we have 1 and some chains when we go out. I would venture to say ours has been used 20-30 times over the years, fortunately less lately since having a winch.
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    newracer previously posted:
    "What were the uses?"

    1. I blew a bead off my tire at little moab a few weeks ago




    2. I knocked my torsion bar out when i high centered for a second at china wall in 2019, we couldn't completely fix it but with people's help and the hi-lift, we got the torsion bar was put back in allowing me to drive home (with Jim being kind enough to follow me all the way home at low speeds)

    3. JandDGreens had to use one when he really messed up something at little moab in 2018 i think it was? I can't even remember what he used it for but i distinctly remember him needing it and someone was super excited to use theirs for the first time (similar to how you said you never got to use it)

    4. If I am remembering correctly I think it was when this pack of Rovers (mostly LR3s) were at Hackett Gulch, one of them tried to forge the Platte river.. didn't make it, another one tried to help that one out and got stuck then they had a line of them trying to help and winch and this Range Rover has something pop very loud. I believe they used a hi-lift on the one that popped something. There wasn't much we could do to help them and there was a lot of them, so we just left them I'm not sure how it ended or how they got out

    5. I very well may be forgetting one

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    TDash previously posted:
    "I knocked my torsion bar out when i high centered for a second at china wall in 2019"

    Ahh, good times! I recall looking at the side of your truck as you crested the rock and then the rock just jumped out of the ground and whacked that torsion bar all to hell. Honest - I swear that's what happened. Then the group project to try and get it as driveable as possible. Glad to have been there to assist. yessir - good times. This is one for Cliff's "remember moments" sig line...

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    Jim previously posted:
    "Ahh, good times! I recall looking at the side of your truck as you crested the rock and then the rock just jumped out of the ground and whacked that torsion bar all to hell. Honest - I swear that's what happened. Then the group project to try and get it as driveable as possible. Glad to have been there to assist. yessir - good times."

    In the rain, too. That was the day we learned Shane carries ALL of the tools and Scott doesn't carry the key for his wheel lock lug nuts! It was quite the afternoon watching people beat on Scott's truck with hammers and hearing the whir of an air impact wrench out on the trail.

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    open_circuit previously posted:
    "Scott doesn't carry the key for his wheel lock lug nuts!"

    Hey all I can do is learn 😉

    Truck came with the wheels and without the key and I guess I hadn't thought about it before then. Got a key right after that trip and have one now 😅

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    TDash previously posted:
    "1. I blew a bead off my tire at little moab a few weeks ago

    2. I knocked my torsion bar out when i high centered for a second at china wall in 2019, we couldn't completely fix it but with people's help and the hi-lift, we got the torsion bar was put back in allowing me to drive home (with Jim being kind enough to follow me all the way home at low speeds)

    3. JandDGreens had to use one when he really messed up something at little moab in 2018 i think it was? I can't even remember what he used it for but i distinctly remember him needing it and someone was super excited to use theirs for the first time (similar to how you said you never got to use it)

    4. If I am remembering correctly I think it was when this pack of Rovers (mostly LR3s) were at Hackett Gulch, one of them tried to forge the Platte river.. didn't make it, another one tried to help that one out and got stuck then they had a line of them trying to help and winch and this Range Rover has something pop very loud. I believe they used a hi-lift on the one that popped something. There wasn't much we could do to help them and there was a lot of them, so we just left them I'm not sure how it ended or how they got out

    5. I very well may be forgetting one"

    Using the hi-lift when re-seating your bead looks sketchy to me. A bottle jack would be more stable and would not need to lift the vehicle as high as you just push up the suspension rather than lift the vehicle enough for the suspension to fully droop and then get the tire off the ground.

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    I carry a telescoping bottle jack and a hi-lift. Have used the high lift plenty of times, mostly in the snow. Used it just a couple of weeks ago when I was stuck in the snow to the point winching wasnít getting me out. I jacked up both rear wheels at once and put max-trax under both in one go. Couldnít have easily done that with my bottle jack.

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    newracer previously posted:
    "Using the hi-lift when re-seating your bead looks sketchy to me. A bottle jack would be more stable and would not need to lift the vehicle as high as you just push up the suspension rather than lift the vehicle enough for the suspension to fully droop and then get the tire off the ground."


    Really sounds like you are afraid of the Hi Lift jacks as if not used properly, things could go wrong. But as with any tool, they do carry their inherent risks, but if one learns to properly use the tool, they can minimize that risk greatly. Think about table saws, large hydraulic presses, firearms, etc. Heck even bottle jacks carry huge consequences if not used correctly. Personally, I would rather carry as many things as I can that can help get me home. Might be the old "boy scout" mentality of always be prepared, even though I was never a scout. But I would hate to have to rely on others in order to make it home. And being "scared" or "nervous" of a piece of a equipment has never slowed me down, only made me want to learn more in order to not be worried. But to each their own...

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