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    Made it out to Moab for a couple days of wheeling with a friend from Washington state - ran the rubicon with him previously. He has both a more modified 75cj5 and a more original (and newer to him) 74cj5. The plan was to take the 74 as he had family and kids along and keep the wheeling a bit more moderate, but it ate a distributor gear a few days before departure so the beat-up, but very capable 75 made the trip (on a trailer). His wife rented a nicely outfitted Gladiator and tagged along with kids swapping between their two jeeps. The rental is gps monitored and the rental agreement limits taking it on most of the known challenging trails. On day 1 we ran Klondike bluffs and section of Sevenmile Rim out to Uranium arch and back. On day two we ran Fins and then John and I ran Hells as the rental isn't allowed on HR. A few pics:

    Klondike bluffs - pretty mellow trail, but has dino prints (fun for the kids) and I like the slick rock section although its pretty flat, bumpy and slow going. I also like doing the hike into the Arches NP.


    I didn't get many pics from sevenmile rim...



    John like this trail better, and its probably would have been better to just do this as a first moab trail next time...for whatever reason, a lot of our ecj5 members have the expectation that Moab is really tough wheeling, and its reputation is a bit overblown, so there is some hesitancy as to how hard of trails to run. I keep telling the the west coast crowd that is Rubicon etc experienced, they can start right out on the rated-5/6 trails no problem. I, on the other hand, had the opposite issue going to Rubicon, and was expecting a mellower trail, and got slammed the first time. Even taking the easiest routes on the rubicon, I would rate it equivalent 7 on the moab scale. Plus, with early cjs, clearance is an issue on the rubicon that isn't as big of an issue on the slickrock, and without traction devices, the rubicon gets really tough, whereas the slickrock provides amazing traction. But the early cjs hit their wall around 8 in moab due to the short wheelbase, short tire and inability to push up the big steps and ledges.

    And the classic fins and hells pics:
    Everyone's favorite drag the rear bumper spot on fins:


    kennys climb I think:


    The first big slickrock climb on Hells (other than the entrance fin):


    Overlook on HR - we found here while parked that John's oil pan skid had caught on something (most likely his front driveshaft) and opened a decent leak in the oilpan. Some RTV seemed to take care of the issue enough to minimize concern both for engine and environment. It also gave us an excuse to keep it simple the rest of the way and bypass the big three. otherwise I think John would have tried Hells Gate in the 75. And per usual these days, there was some SxS stuck and broken down in the pothole halfway up escalator....a winching was in progress so we just kept moving.


    Going around Mickey's:


    Cool shot before the big descent down towards escalator.


    And what the previous shot looks like from my POV:


    And finally....
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    Where are the details on that rear quarter panel crunch affecting the gas tank fill neck? Doesn't seem like you ran any trails where you (your rig and your skills) would get you into a situation to do that?

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    The cj is very capable as long as it has a driver...when it tries to drive itself, it doesn't do too well....I am still coming to terms with my stupidity, but basically, I jumped out for a quick spot/pic, and it wasn't parked/braked/in gear right, started rolling downhill backward without me and into John's front bumper...he actually steered into it to stop it - he was hoping to catch the spare tire but it veered and everything happened fast. With his SOA on 35s, his bumper is quite a bit higher than mine, but considering the alternative options - a bumper into the rear quarter was by far the best....and no damage was done to his jeep. Maybe in my attempt to mourn and rationalize, that rear quarter already had been repaired...the OEM side mounted tire carrier would have been there, and its notoriously weak and damages the body before eventually ripping out completely. I found the PO had already done a bondo filled repair under the re-paint when I drilled through for the fuel filler - there was no metal, just a bit of screen for the bondo to hold on to (and the under fender supports are all rusted out). So we'll see what happens...I am going to try and push it out and get it back to whatever rough shape I can manage - It may end up good enough - my standards for good enough are pretty low. But I am expecting to eventually cut out the corner and weld in new sheet metal...and I think I am going to add some 1/8" body armor over the new sheetmetal....it'll add some protection and cover up my body work (including the old body work I did years ago on the tailight panel). The rear tank is fine (and still full fuel) and hopefully the fuel filler will work, but if not, I can always run on the underseat. The filler is flexible fuel hose so it may not be too damaged, or is easily replaced. And I think I would move the filler to the rear panel - things get tight there with the back-up lights, but I've never liked how exposed the filler cap is along the side of the jeep.
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    looks fun. Ouch.
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    Nm
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    Sorry to hear it. Thumbs up to John for arresting the roll. If it kept rolling - would it have been a terrible wreck???

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    I think at best the jeep flops on it's side without getting stopped...there was a pretty big ledge step we had just come up. It quite easily barrel rolls a bit....my first thought had been to jump behind it and stop it...ha ha, like I am going to be able to stop a quickly accelerating jeep on a steep incline, it would have run me over or smashed me between the two jeeps. 2nd though was to jump in and apply brakes/steer etc, but that would have been tricky given the speed, and most likely it would have gone off the rock step and rolled with me in it (and not belted in). Just as I was moving out from behind and about to try and jump in, john hit it with his jeep.
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    You owe John a case of beer.


    edit: It's wise you didn't try to attempt a bodily risky save...

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