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    Jim previously posted:
    "Is there as max vehicle miles per year restriction with Collector plates?"

    There is a subsection that presents another set of conditions to apply under, this is the only one that mentions miles per year restrictions. I'll post the whole text and bold the section I'm referencing, it won't be the one that I try to register through because I don't meet the other qualifications, but I won't be doing that many miles anyway.
    About: Vehicles must be (a) Model year 1975 or earlier; or(b) Model year 1976 or later that was registered as a collector's item prior to September 1, 2009; except that a vehicle so registered is not eligible for registration as a collector's item upon sale or transfer to a new owner; OR (c) A model year at least thirty-two years old unless the vehicle was registered before September 1,2009, and meets the requirements of paragraph (b) of this subsection (2). if the vehicle is being registered under this paragraph (c) and in the program area, as defined in section 42-4-304: (i) The vehicle must have passed an emissions test meeting the standards of part 3 of article 4 of this title within the last twelve months before being initially registered by the owner as a collector's item; and (ii) The owner must sign an affidavit DR 2839 that the vehicle will not be driven on roadways for more than four thousand five hundred miles per year. All taxes and fees shall be five times the annual taxes and fees normally assessed.

    The last sentence scared me a bit but I guess if I'm good for 5 years then the 5x taxes makes sense.

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    Been off the grid for a bit and just found this.... very, very cool Jeep.

    As for emissions, he's got a brand new jeep to drive as well. I think JL+SJ <= TJ when it comes to greenhouse gasses.

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    I re-read the first post thus the ask: What's it have for engine, drivetrain, axles.

    Any underhood pic would be nice.

    Any interior and dashboard pix handy?

    Thx!

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    Jim previously posted:
    "Any underhood pic would be nice."

    Careful, you'll have to put an "I am over 18" login page up with content like that.

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    Probably - he already said there's a 4BBL under there...

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    We know its got a 401!....that's why it's not just the honcho, but honcho magnum!
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    Hi everyone, I didn't see notifications of posts to this thread. I cleaned out the engine bay recently to an extent knowing that I'll probably be spending a good deal of time in it. Here are some under the hood pics!

    Also there is a pic of the "universal" torque converter dust cover that I was able to modify enough to get attached. Its just plastic but I wanted something keeping debris out.

    As for the kind of axles and transfer case info, I don't have much. I can try decoding the VIN maybe, and get some pics of it soon. I do know that some previous owner had installed the part-time 4wd conversion kit which is pretty cool. And this might be obvious but its leaf spring suspension all the way around.

    Edit: might be worth noting that it has the GM Turbo 400 automatic transmission, that I had fully rebuilt by a shop. It even got put into a "new" case under the warranty from the rebuild, since it kept leaking and failing. Now its working great.
           

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    Thx - Interesting to see the heater box in the engine bay. It takes up a bit of space - I can see why they're moved into the passenger area.

    What's the item in green? Oil fill & dipstick????
         

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    Its some kind of overflow vent, I think I've seen a tube going from that into the air cleaner somewhere. The repair book calls it the "Crankcase Breather"

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    I have no idea how I have 0 interior photos but here's a sneak peek from when my dog and I took it for a joyride (that turned into the transmission cooler lines failing and shooting tranny fluid everywhere) back in February:
         

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    Its part of the pcv system....I am not that familiar with the AMC v8 family, but I would guess you have a pcv valve in one of the valve covers that allows excess pressure/blowby gasses to be released into the base of the carb (sometimes even into the air filter housing as on the later AMC I6 258). On the flip side, if the crankcase needs air (has too low pressure), there is a breather or direct air inflow into the crankcase (sometimes through a valve cover) that allows filtered air to bypass the carb/throttle plate/intake manifold and go directly into the crankcase (the breather goes 'through' the intake manifold and into the 'valley' with shared air volume with crankcase). Typically, the breather nipple would have been connected via hose to the air filter housing to get fresh filtered air before going into the carb - most of the time, that gets removed, and people put a straight breather 'cap' that sucks outside (unfiltered) air from the engine bay and filters it as it sucks it through a small filter in the cap. This way, any air taken into through the breather into the crankcase does not come at the expense of air going into the carb and combustion chamber. Remember, that with performance engines, its often harder to get enough air flow into the air/fuel mix than fuel.

    Here is a basic diagram of what I am trying to say....in the case of the pic, the intake breather is in the valve cover on the left, but it could just as easily go through the front of the intake manifold into the valley:
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    Thanks James. My pause is - I'm not seeing any dipstick (aside from what I believe is the trans dipstick) or oil fill cap on either valve cover.

    Yea, a small issue - nothing that needs attention - I'm in curious george mode (not wanting to do paperwork in the office).

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    I appreciate all the curious eyes I can get on that engine bay, since I don't know these at all besides what I've already seen for myself. And that isn't much at this point.

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    Ty can answer exactly where it is, but I'd guess it back by the rear cylinder on the driver side - lower down than you think under the heads. Often its hidden under the spark plug wires/boots. I think you can see it under the #5 plug boot in the last engine bay photo he posted...
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    Yep that's it with the blue handle

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    So I finally got a DMV appointment. I had called in to confirm that the Collectors Vehicle status should stay with the vehicle in my case but the employee I had an appointment with today disagreed, which I was expecting. However on a technicality, I am able to drive it through Nov 2023 because my brother's name was on the title when it last passed emissions, so if I kept the title in both of our names I can keep that same plate. So I have a little over 3 years to collect the missing emissions system components and get them installed.

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    Nice when a technicality actually works in your favor.

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    Yeah that's for sure. Also I was able to find most of the parts at a site called Team Grand Wagoneer so I'm going to collect them and try to install them. I've seen some forums actually claim that they kept the engine running cooler with this secondary air injection system kept on the vehicle, which is surprising to me.

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    Jim previously posted:
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    Yes, but nobody ever checks it.
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    From what I had read, you only had to sign an affidavit that you would only drive x number of miles in a year if you registered as Collectors Vehicle through a certain way. I believe it was the way where it was not 1975 or newer. 1975 and newer I don't think there is a mileage limit.

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