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    4 of us headed down to the Gulches on Saturday and I clocked a 45 mile round trip day!!! This does include the access road(s) to get to and from Hackett trailhead, as these roads had some serious snow/ice and very deep puddles!

    Hackett was a blast, of course! We took the longest at the large slippery slab that made most of us make multiple attempts (except Matt in his JKUR on 37's). The weather was perfect and I think we all had a great time. I left home at 8am and got back home at Midnight, so it was a LOOONG day but worth every minute!

    Thanks to Evan for leading and here's a couple pictures and a video..... hope to see Evan and Matt add some more to this also!

           
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    We've been waiting for some pix! Thx!

    45 miles - shouldn't that be like 245 or 345?

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    Jim previously posted:
    "45 miles - shouldn't that be like 245 or 345?"

    I thought maybe he was poking fun at himself for rarely venturing far from home :-)

    It probably should be closer to 250 miles round trip.

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    It’s about 250 miles round trip to Westcreek, CO.... all paved and wasn’t counted into the 45 mile round trip on 4x4 roads!!! So a 300 mile round trip day
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    Some more video! What a great time. Thanks for coming out guys it was a long but far from boring day

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    Definately the hardest hackett has been when I've ran it. Cant wait to wheel with you guys again!

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    If still correct and I am reading it right, the Longwater trail ends at the Park county line making the water illegal in a couple of ways. Interpret as you will, but you might blur plates in case, and if so, this activity should not be posted on this site as it is not condoned. Not trying to be a complete DH, but these trails are in serious jeopardy of closing as it is and not following the rules will not help keep them open.
         

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    I’m not familiar with the area but we followed only trails that were open and saw no closed trail signs or notifications at all. If we were on any trails we shouldn’t have been it was absolutely not intentional
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    The history and ever changing legal status of these trails has made following the law difficult - and signage has been minimal if any (I also think its maybe been vandalized despite efforts to try and post closures). As a sort of side note, I went to Predator 4wd (the trail maintainers) to see if there was any new updates and found this - doesn't sound good for the opening up of the Park County portion. I believe the 'closed' part is still only the portion in Park County - which as Chris mentioned, means the water crossing is still closed - technically, you would not even be able to drive all the way to the river on either Hacket or Longwater. As Metberry reaches the river while still in Teller County - this one is the only one open all the way to the water. FWIW - on the MVUM from Chris: Metberry is 205, Longwater is 221 and Hackett is 220
    http://www.predator4wd.com/halomegu.html

    Here is a copy and paste from the above link about the trails:
    Important Update: March 28, 2019
    Various meetings have taken place but the trails remain closed to motorized vehicles. The environmental assessment study for the Pike San Isabel (PSI) lawsuit has been completed and is due out soon. It will be the LAST chance to comment and request that these trails be re-opened.


    Unless we obtain the backing from the Park County Commissioners, the trails will remain closed indefinitely. The Park County Commissioners are the key to getting these trails reopened for motorized vehicle use. If you want to see these trails opened it’s critical that you take action now and contact the Park County Commissioners to ask for their support.

    Contact the Park County commissioners office and request that they adopt the Park County trails so they can remain opened to motorized vehicles.

    Write to:
    Park County Commissioners Office
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    Fairplay, CO 80440

    Phone: 719-836-2771

    Fax: 719-836-3273





    Trails in Wildcat Canyon

    The trails in the Wildcat Canyon have continued to deteriorate at a disturbing rate. This is not good news for 4-wheel drive enthusiasts.

    The Pike San Isabel lawsuit is still in progress. Even though there are organizations that support our concerns and are on top of the situation; the Forest Service has conducted closed-door meetings with anti-access groups. The Trail Preservation Alliance and COHVCO have notified the Forest Service that these exclusive closed-door meetings may be violating the law.

    The Forest Service allowed motorists use of the trails but unfortunately motorists are also using the closed trails and the Forest Service does not have the resources to stop them.

    Volunteers in the motorized community have offered to help with the trail maintenance but the Forest Service has declined their offers.

    The Forest Service said there is too much sediment run off at the river. They haven't had the funding to find the true cause so they decided to close the trails to motorized vehicles, even though the actual cause could be attributed to bikers, hikers, environmental issues, animals and weather conditions.

    Adding markers to help keep users on the trails and placing a sign at the river with guidelines on the proper use of the area could provide additional guidance for users who might be unaware of the concerns. The Forest Service acknowledges that educating users is the best answer to protecting public lands but they have dismissed requests to add these markers that would help make Wildcat Canyon a self-guided educational classroom.

    Proper use of the trails
    Over the years, 4-wheel drive groups adopted these trails, maintained them at their own expense and guided others in the proper use of the trails.

    We can all help educate users why these areas are unique and how to properly use the trails in public lands so the trails can be opened and enjoyed by the motorized community.

    Here are some suggestions on how you can help:
    • Don't drive on the closed trails.
    • Teller Country trails are open because Teller County adopted those trails and allowed motorized vehicles access to those trails.
    • Support the businesses in Teller County which support motorized recreation.
    • Contact Teller County commissioners and thank them for supporting motorized vehicles in public lands.

    www.co.teller.co.us

    Write to:
    Teller County Commissioners Office
    PO Box 959

    Cripple Creek, CO 80813

    Phone: 719.689.2988
    Fax: 719.686.7900


    • Contact the Park County commissioners office and request that they adopt the Park County trails so they can remain opened to motorized vehicles.

    Write to:
    Park County Commissioners Office
    PO Box 1373

    Fairplay, CO 80440

    Phone: 719-836-2771

    Fax: 719-836-3273


    • If you vote in Park County, contact the Park County commissioners to share your concerns about trail closures in the Wildcat Canyon and ask the commissioners for their support.
    • If you see anyone not respecting public lands take a minute to educate them.
    • Guide users to visit websites such as “Stay the trail in Colorado” to learn proper use of motorized vehicles on trails.
    www.staythetrail.org
    • Offer to take new users on a trail ride to show them proper respect and use of public lands.
    • Support organizations such as the Trail Preservation Alliance www.coloradotpa.org and COHVCO www.cohvco.org. Both of these local organizations are supporting the use of motorized vehicle in public lands.
    • Support organizations such as Blue Ribbon Coalition (Share Trails) www.sharetrails.org which is supporting the use of motorized vehicles in public lands on a national level.

    Now is your chance to take action to do more. Support these organizations and contact the representatives to voice your concerns.
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