220V oultet need wired

[4x4JeePmaNthINg]

hi all, Im trying to see what cost Im looking at to add a 220V outlet under my panel in the garage. the outlet would be put right under the panel and likely a 50A breaker would be needed.

The purpose is for a 220V 190A welder.

I appreciate any help,

Thank you

[Jim]

I can recommend a few local electricians if nobody here can task it for you.

[newracer]

Do you have space in the panel for the breaker? Is the bottom of the panel readily accessible? Can you post a picture of the location?

I wired my own, it's actually very easy.

[4x4JeePmaNthINg]

[IMG][/IMG]there is plenty of space left in the panel, yes the bottom of the panel is easily accessible.

[4x4JeePmaNthINg]

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[newracer]

Looks easy enough. Just need the outlet, a remodel box that fits it, cover plate, a few feet or wire, breaker, and a strain relief for the box.

[Rover Guy]

I'm an electrician, but I'm in Aurora. I can walk you through it, if that helps.

[4x4JeePmaNthINg]

What should all that cost?

[newracer]

Probably less than $50.

[4x4JeePmaNthINg]

thats not too bad at all

[newracer]

You would need an out let to match your plug but it should be about the cost of this one.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Utilitech-3...Outlet/3775477

And the rest except wire, they don't have the wire by the foot online.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/CARLON-1-Ga...l-Box/50046395
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hubbell-2-G...ate/1000050451
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Square-D-Ho...reaker/1078729
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Gampak-3-4-...nector/1087283

[4x4JeePmaNthINg]

does 50 amp sound like too much for a breaker. I saw a youtube video for the same welder and a guy was stepping a 30 amp to a 24amp.

[newracer]

The manual for the welder should specify what size breaker it needs.

[GPP33]

Bigger is better, though 30amps would be fine for that welder. I’m Probably going to wire in another 220v outlet for my new compressor in the next few days. Almost the exact same situation as you. You are welcome to come down and watch what needs to be done, it’s really super simple.

[Tom]

Upper left two breakers in your box are 220. Just open it up and hook up your new one just the same.

[JandDGreens]

That should be a piece of cake, but if you have never done electrical I would have someone who knows what he is doing help you.

[4x4JeePmaNthINg]

I've never added any electrical to a home haha, I would prefer not frying myself

[4x4JeePmaNthINg]

It looks like 10 gauge wire and a 30 amp breaker is common with this welder. Is there anything tooling wise for a garage that anyone suggests stepping up to a 50 amp breaker for?

[GPP33]

Bigger welders could pull over 30, my millermatic 210 came with a 50 amp plug but it doesn’t pull a full 50 amps, not sure about compressors. It won’t hurt to go bigger, you just have more buffer and the cost will be about the same.

[GPP33]

A couple small pieces of advice.

Take a breaker down to HD or Lowe’s with you, it took me 3 trips to get ones that would work and even then I had to modify some plastic. Yours should be easier though since you have plenty of open slots, mine was full so I had to use some double breakers but they didn’t have em for my box.

Get stranded wire. Solid is a pain in the ass when it’s that big. Individual stranded is sooooo much easier to work with. Use black for the two hot leads and green for the ground, Lowe’s and HD sell both by the foot. I used 8 gage for a 50 amp outlet and it was about $.60/ foot.

Total for all the bits and pieces was about $40.