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    Had a blast today. Met lots of new people. I am amazed that there was no snow of any kind on the trail. Bit windy though. No pics from me so someone else will need to post em.
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    I only got a few pictures
    Got lots of dash cam video but need to resize the files to post or ??
    I also found my old car, forgot where I parked it years ago
    Hope there will be more pictures !!!!
    I also had a big-o kick in the pants, such a nice trail !!!
    Wash out on the other trail was a lil pucker time but looked like we all pulled through
    Red-7 had to turn around, mechanical issues
    But we lost one and gained one all at the same time.
    A Toyota Tundra joined in for the last little bit of technical rock areas !!! It was great to have met her too
    Along with everyone that I have and haven't wheeled with before, great to meet ya !!!! Great to see ya !!!!!!!
    Lets all meet again soon !!
           

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    PhillipG65 previously posted:
    "Red-7 had to turn around, mechanical issues"

    Bummer - been there a few times with my old cj as many of you know. Any update on what the problem is/was? Did he make it home ok?
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    Haven't heard from him since the run, but red7 was losing fuel from his filler neck on steep inclines. Also had problems with carb float and stalled on the first hill. Seemed to have a good time. Hope he made it home ok.

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    Haven't heard yet either, just sent them a pm, so hopefully hear something soon

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    FINOCJ previously posted:
    "Bummer - been there a few times with my old cj as many of you know. Any update on what the problem is/was? Did he make it home ok?"

    I also suggested for them to contact you since you are pimping the sweet old jeep as well

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    open_circuit previously posted:
    "losing fuel from his filler neck on steep inclines"

    His 71 should have rear tank with rear filler cap by the right rear taillight. Guessing the ventilation line that connects from the tank into the filler neck has some rot or came disconnected and was leaking when off camber. Even if that is all working, these old jeeps vent through the cap (not a sealed cap) so if the tank is completely full and the jeep tips the cap down low - it will leak out of the cap. More so - if its overfilled, it will flood the ventilation line and no air can get into tank as fuel is removed and the fuel pump will struggle to pull fuel against the growing vacuum. And of course - could just be a carb issue.
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    I'm quite surprised at the no snow comment!

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    Great news everyone !!!!!!!!!!
    Just read a pm from Red 7, they were able to make it home fine yesterday
    They will be working on curing the problems and look forward to getting out with us again once the sweet old jeep is healthy again

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    Same here - looks like they are trying to troubleshoot some carb issues.
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    FINOCJ previously posted:
    "Same here - looks like they are trying to troubleshoot some carb issues."

    Yes, but also fuel lines and tank, trans case and lower gearing

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    Hey Folks!

    Like to throw a shout out to Philip and the Elephant for keeping an eye on us out there and helping us with the gas cap issue. Brand new cap but the little wings on the inside that grab the fill tube flange were to narrow to grab correctly. Some persuasion with Philip's vise grips widened the span just enough to get the cap to seal down. That should improve the MPG a bit.

    Will try lowering the float level on the carb a bit to see if that will give us a few more degrees of flood-free incline.

    Transfer case popped out of 4-low a few times when under heavy load. That's when we decided we better not continue up Pennsylvania. Was making some racket too that went away once we switched back to 2-high. Maybe we'll be lucky and find the noise was just the front shaft u-joint going out. The popping out of gear issue I'm sure will be a bigger issue. Also, I have to come to a complete stop to shift into 1st gear (it was like that when I bought it) so I know the tranny at least needs a new syncro ring. Probably more once we get into it.

    I may need to bribe FINOCJ with a case or two of beverages of his choosing to help go through the trans and TC.

    While we're at it, we could use a lower low gear to crawl up those steep rocky inclines too. I would think the 4.27 axle gears would be enough but it's still a little too quick for careful crawling. Maybe I should just accept the fact that the CJ will have limits. :(

    Everyone was great and we had a great time! We now have an idea of what we need to make the CJ run with the big dogs.

    Thanks everyone! Hope to see you out there soon!

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    Glad you guys got home OK. That'll be a pretty fun jeep once you get all the details worked out.

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    Also, thanks everyone for the run. Enjoyed the trails. Pennsylvania Gulch was the first trail I've run where body damage seemed a real possibility. I was amazed how easily our Jeep was able to crawl up some of the obstacles.

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    Red 7 previously posted:
    "I may need to bribe FINOCJ with a case or two of beverages of his choosing to help go through the trans and TC."

    Getting to see another old cj running trails around here is all the bribe I need. Somebody has to remind all the jks where they came from
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    The few trails I've been on with my Runner have had some challenging sections but those were short. Yesterday was great for the nice long rock gardens and inclines!! Thanks for letting me tag along!!

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    I had a great time also, great meeting everyone that I didn't meet before!

    I'll attache some pictures when I get a chance, that's the hardest part since I have to reduce image sizes on all pictures......
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    That last little loop we did is used for auto testing.

    https://youtu.be/tvd3Gf02Nck
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    It's easier for me to make videos than compress pictures so here's the first - kind of a group shot with a couple rigs climbing up Pennsylvania Gulch. First is Pete and then open circuit!

    https://youtu.be/c9o5VWkF5So
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    Here's little clip of Open circuit going up Cliffhanger 2.0

    https://youtu.be/m1ZCSQb3HMY
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