wrenbot(from co4x4) and i ran carnage today. well andrew ran it and i ran some of it. we made short work of the trail up to the waterfall at the v-notch. andrew was up first and he tried every line that he could get on but eventually took the winch. then it was my turn. i had a line that was trying to work for me but the mud/water at the bottom wasn't helping. tried backing up once and the rocker hung on the lip of the ledge and the rear tire had good traction and ka-tink. busted the drivers side rear shaft. which i didn't know at the time. started winching up and thats when we realized something was wrong in the rear diff. so i backed down and had to go back to the entrance with only front wheel drive while andrew carried on. the shaft flopping around in there also busted up the arb. so i had no rear drive at all. only got hung up once and had to stack a few rocks and eventually winch over a couple rocks about mid ways between the entrance and the notch. once i got back to the trailhead i loaded up and texted andrew and they made it up and since they knew i was out they were going to run chinaman's as well. was a fun day but sucks to break. i have a few more pics that ill try to get up later.