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    Default Gun Safety / Colorado transfer concerns



    Off topic, on subject - what are CO laws on selling a handgun?


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    In CO, as of a year or two ago, ALL (yea, well, maybe not ALL, but essentially ALL - antique items might be exempt) transfers are supposed to go through an FFL (gun store) for a background check.

    If two persons wish to transfer a firearm, they can go to a nearby gun store to process the background check. The gun store will charge the check fee and might add on a bit (10 or 20) for their time involved. Once the check comes back good the transfer can complete.

    How complete the formal process happens in the real world is the question.

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    coaz4x4 previously posted:
    "Calling out firearms enthusiasts!"

    You might want to bring this person along.

    Sorry, couldn't resist.
         
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    Chris previously posted:
    "You might want to bring this person along.

    Sorry, couldn't resist."

    Isn't that the proper way to check for a cleared chamber?

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    Yep, Yep, I do believe it certainly is!

    A solid video to keep for reference...
    (guy doesn't die and doesn't seem to be even in the flesh wound category - but it might make you jump)
    Near fatal shotgun mistake - There was a "click" but no "bang".
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU9uqQLmAxc


    Everyone should know the Four Rules for safe gun handling (three by the NRA, I add one more and change the listing ever so slightly). If any "non gun" person is reading the thread, you should pay attention as well in case you find yourself (party, group gathering) with someone else "showing off" a gun.

    http://training.nra.org/nra-gun-safety-rules.aspx

    1) ALWAYS assume every gun is loaded.

    2) ALWAYS keep the gun pointed in a safe direction
    / NEVER point it at anything you would not want destroyed.

    3) ALWAYS keep your finger off of the trigger until the gun is on target and ready to shoot.

    4) ALWAYS know your target and what is behind your target.


    So, if you're with a group and you see someone waving a gun around - they are likely breaking rule #2 and probably have their finger on the trigger (#3). Since you're assuming it's loaded... GET AWAY as quick as you can.

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    Jim previously posted:
    "In CO, as of a year or two ago, ALL (yea, well, maybe not ALL, but essentially ALL - antique items might be exempt) transfers are supposed to go through an FFL (gun store) for a background check.

    If two persons wish to transfer a firearm, they can go to a nearby gun store to process the background check. The gun store will charge the check fee and might add on a bit (10 or 20) for their time involved. Once the check comes back good the transfer can complete.

    How complete the formal process happens in the real world is the question."



    Jakcked once more........what if it was as a trade?
    Im gona assume the back round check is still the way to go.
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    A quick search found this decent write-up / consolidation. Odd that it's on Connecticut's web site.

    https://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/rpt/2013-R-0198.htm

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    94ToyBear previously posted:
    "Jakcked once more........what if it was as a trade?
    Im gona assume the back round check is still the way to go."

    With a few exceptions, a BGC is required when a fire-arm changes ownership, regardless of whether it was a trade, gift, or paid for.

    Text of HB-13-1229: https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/sit...HB-13-1229.pdf

    http://smartgunlaws.org/private-sales-in-colorado/

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    Correct me if I am wrong but my understanding is.
    A O Bummer's new back ground check will be for the gun owner and all who have reasonable access.
    You put in for a BGC and you "will" get a call from AFT..
    If you dont pass BGC you will get a visit from ATF agents askin why you are trying to get a gun !!
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    The StRanger previously posted:
    "If you dont pass BGC you will get a visit from ATF agents askin why you are trying to get a gun !!"

    As told to me by an FFL dealer, this is current protocol already. Because if you can't pass the bgc, the only way to go thru with the process is to lie on the paperwork.

    EDIT: Thanks to Micheal, I called up my buddy that works at Alpha1 Drop Zone (my former FFL) in Wichita,KS. He refreshed my memory on the situation. For some reason, I always get delayed, not denied. Which means that if an FFL doesn't hear back after 10 days, you can walk off with your purchase. If the ATF finds out after the fact that you didn't pass the bgc, then they will pay you a visit.

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    http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-a...proposals.aspx

    Just an overview, but the best part is the proposed hundreds of millions of tax dollars for this crap

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    Default Re: Gun Safety / Colorado transfer concerns



    The StRanger previously posted:
    "Correct me if I am wrong but my understanding is.
    A O Bummer's new back ground check will be for the gun owner and all who have reasonable access.
    You put in for a BGC and you "will" get a call from AFT..
    If you dont pass BGC you will get a visit from ATF agents askin why you are trying to get a gun !!"

    None of this is true.

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    Is it true that you can't legally pass a background check if you have an MMJ card? I read that if you check the box that says you're not a drug addict and have an MMJ card it's a felony, but I also read that the MMJ registry isn't available to the ATF wthout cause so they can't cross reference it unless you're involved in a "situation".

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    The MMJ is treated like any other document with the Health Dept.
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    Paul previously posted:
    "Is it true that you can't legally pass a background check if you have an MMJ card? I read that if you check the box that says you're not a drug addict and have an MMJ card it's a felony, but I also read that the MMJ registry isn't available to the ATF wthout cause so they can't cross reference it unless you're involved in a "situation"."

    Alcohol is also on that same line. How many people do you think were completely honest about that?

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    I don't know the wording of that line but doesn't it talk about addition?

    Drinking alcohol is not a state crime nor a federal crime.

    Consuming THC is not a state crime but remains a federal crime.

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    So I stand corrected as I cant find the sentence I remember reading. It was asking if you (the purchaser) were under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

    Line e...

    http://http://www.jrgunsales.com/ffl_transfers.html

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    Chris previously posted:
    "Off topic, on subject - what are CO laws on selling a handgun?"

    Who wants to sell a handgun? I'm in the market for a good one.

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    I might be able to come up up with a couple of leaky squirt guns in the garage... let me check...

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    Sure, why not. How well do they do for target practice?

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