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    It looks good. In regards to the shocks. It doesn't look like you used trailer leaf springs but rather some off of an suv? The dynamics of those leaf springs could require shocks as they have a progressive rate as opposed to trailer springs which are stiff and all about load carrying vs ride comfort and load carrying.

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    Did some more stuff, just waiting to get an appointment with the Colorado State Patrol for a certified vin inspection. The process for a homemade trailer is kinda silly- first you have to fill out and bring a Statement of Assembly and all your receipts for the build to 18th and Pierce and have a vin search done. Ofcourse is shows up nothing, but that is required to get a temporary tag so I can drive it to CSP without just going to pick up a ticket. Before I go there I have to go to a certified scale and get a certified weight. I got all of this from Bill at the DMV, this is the official process. Then CSP does an inspection, makes sure I'm not trying to steal anything. I haven't been able to get a return call from the CSP in Golden so I'm hoping to get one in Commerce City this week. Then all the paperwork goes to the DMV, standard title / tag from there.

    Here's the trailer with detachable mud flaps, just 2 wing nuts at the trailhead, and loaded with camping gear. The tent goes up top and bungees to some eyebolts that go to the frame, then all our soft stuff- sleeping bags, pillows, clothes, etc... go there too. This winter I'm working on a big cargo box with drawers and attached fenders to replace the flatbed, removeable as well.
             

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    This turned out great! Good job!

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    Very impressed! Nice work!

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    They make the homemade trailer stuff sound really hard, Paul, but when I did mine I was shocked at how painless it actually was. Maybe I just got lucky, but they barely even looked at my trailer. Pretty much just made sure the lights work.

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    scout man previously posted:
    "They make the homemade trailer stuff sound really hard, Paul, but when I did mine I was shocked at how painless it actually was. Maybe I just got lucky, but they barely even looked at my trailer. Pretty much just made sure the lights work."

    These are the locations for VIN inspections. http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite.../1251594439790 Too bad aircare doesn't do certified, that would be easy. So I called the Commerce City CSP office yesterday at 10 to make an appointment and was told I had to call on Monday at 8 to schedule an appointment. It was Monday. Apparently you have to call at 8am and get one of only a few available appointments. Left another message for the Golden CSP, they haven't returned my first call from weeks ago so I'm not holding my breath. I know they have more important things to do, but... Next I'm calling the Glenwood Police to see if they can do it. What a PITA.

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    gm4x4lover previously posted:
    "It looks good. In regards to the shocks. It doesn't look like you used trailer leaf springs but rather some off of an suv? The dynamics of those leaf springs could require shocks as they have a progressive rate as opposed to trailer springs which are stiff and all about load carrying vs ride comfort and load carrying."

    Those are the stock springs from Travis' 2008 Tacoma. I'm still open to shocks, just going to wait and see.

    I got the nicest callback from the CSP in Golden today, they didn't have an appointment anytime soon- October 23! It's good to have a date set, and again the CSP officer was just awesome. Also, turns out I got bad info FROM THE DMV! Not to be mean, I screw up all day myself, but you don't need to do a title search on a trailer that can't possibly have been registered before to get a temporary tag, you just bring the confirmation email from the CSP about the VIN inspection date along with your Statement of Assembly, vehicle registration and insurance to the DMV and pay for a temp tag. That makes perfect sense. CSP FTW.

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    No need for insurance on the trailer.

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    Paul previously posted:
    "vehicle registration and insurance"

    True and correct! When the trailer is hooked to the tow vehicle, it is covered by that insurance.
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    Good looking trailer. Turned out very well and looks to be very functional. I would recommend ratchet straps rather than bungee cord. You need something that tightens well & won't stretch when the trailer bounces, letting your stuff bounce around & maybe bounce loose & fly off the trailer. Don't get the cheaper straps as they usually have poor ratchet mechanisms, but you don't need heavy duty ones either. The idea is to hold everything in place so it can't move. If it starts moving it will work itself loose.

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    Yep, the insurance they want to see is for the vehicle, as is the registration. And they need to see my DL. Makes sense. re: Bungees, the containers on the trailer are empty, I'm just seeing how everything fits and figuring out where the rest of the tiedowns will go. the bungees are just so they don't fall off while in my yard. As long as I have a month before I can register it I'm putting shocks in too. Got a pair of NOS for the rear of an 88 Aerostar yesterday; no reason for that application except they were there, feel pretty mild and fit the measurements. Working on camp lighting too, and the all important camera mounts.

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    So I'm wondering what to do here...

    "Toyota is recalling 690,000 midsize Tacoma pickup trucks to fix a problem in the rear suspension.

    The recall applies to 2005 to 2011 Tacoma 4x4 and Tacoma Pre-Runner pickup trucks.
    Toyota says it notified the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration that the trucks have rear leaf springs that could be subject to corrosion, leading to a fracture. If the leaf spring fractures, one of the plates could slide out of position and puncture the gas tank. The resulting fuel leak could cause a fire.
    Leaf springs are made of individual pieces of metal that are sandwiched together, usually three or four of them. The problem could occur if one of the metal plates crack"

    I have 2008 OEM Tacoma springs in my trailer that look fine, and I know don't have corrosion on them, and there is no gas tank, but now I'm wondering if I should swap them for something else. They are the same width as YJ springs, I'm using YJ shackles on them. Any thoughts? Thanks!

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    I wouldnt sweat it, You will see the corrosion be for you have a problem.
    We have seen them coming through and they look like crap !!!
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    Your not going to put the trailer through the same paces as a truck puts them through. ie driving it under load with a fuel tank by the axle. You should be fine.

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    And - if they were on the truck, you'd be using them daily. on the trailer, you'll put less than half as many miles on them.

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    Thanks for the responses, I was thinking / hoping the same thing, it's good to hear it! Jeff gave me a warning about it a while back so it's been in my head. It would suck to have to replace the springs, the trailer is somewhat designed around them.

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    I wasn't aware of problems with the newer Taco springs, but the 1st gen Taco springs were known to crack the main leaf. I know someone who replaced both sides, and I believe I replaced 1 or 2. Frankly, they still held together as the crack was right in the middle of the axle, but the sag was noticeable. That was the dead giveaway. If you don't have anything visibly cracked, I wouldn't worry about it.

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    It's official, got my VIN inspection done today, just need to go pay for the tags and title. Edit- forgot, I have to get a certified weight on it to. Getting it here http://wardlefeed.com/certified-scale . They were very nice at CSP, the officer that inspected the trailer was really on top of things, he looked at all of my paperwork and receipts and asked quite a few questions. He also had some good fab ideas about how to mount the license plate. One of the other guys that works there, in a shop I guess, showed me these really cool PIT maneuver practice vehicles, the bumpers were awesome. They tied into the frame but could be unbolted modularly if they got mangled; but to say those guys do some sweet welding and fabrication on the bumpers would be an understatement, I think they could take a lot of abuse before they'd need to. I also saw a cool truck with a lot of potential, it was a good time at CSP today!
              

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    Gratz

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    Congrats, trailer turned out awesome Paul!
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