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    Carrying on Aaron's transparency about members vanishing to prevent posts of "What happened to..." I'm letting you all know that I have deleted Sunshine24 (Robyn) and Scrat (Chris) at their request.
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    While I was at the admin panel for deleting members I also deleted the following who have not logged in for more than 60 days per our membership rules.

    303yjchick, Addicted Offroad, beaker, drcoopster, Firefyterjohnson, flexytoy, iamjero, Nay, Not A XJ, racing616, Ralph, TOYOTAPARTS, TwistedBronk.

    Yes, some vendors and longtime members too but rules is rules and anyone who doesn't have enough interest to even log in for 60 days is gone.
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    FYI - We are at 217 members.
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    Thanks for maintaining the members Chris! Ugly job, but someone has to do it.

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    Rock Rubi has also been deleted at his request.
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    Deleting members and their posts causes some degree of incoherence in some threads.
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    As my failing memory recalls, there were a few "Hey, maybe you folks need to read this" things that got posted on the forum. One of them had to do with deleting people who have signed up on the forum and haven't posted/participated in 60 days. If people don't have enough interest to post/participate in two months, then they don't have much interest, period. Not like a mess of Pms are going to get sent out. After all, if they haven't posted on the forum, they aren't going to get their PMs, are they?

    When Chris, as the Admin, posts something, it may be a good idea to read it as it probably affects you in some manner as a Front Range 4x4 member...

    Deleting members and their posts causes some degree of incoherence in some threads.

    Most of us can deal with some incoherence and chaos in the threads

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    Chris previously posted:
    "Carrying on Aaron's transparency about members vanishing to prevent posts of "What happened to..." I'm letting you all know that I have deleted Sunshine24 (Robyn) and Scrat (Chris) at their request."

    wow. I don't know what to say, that really sucks. two active, cool members. I'd ask why, but I guess that answer would already be posted if it was available, so I'll just go with good luck and sorry to see both of you go. that sucks.

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    I guess I should elaborate on how deleting members occurs. As I think is clear most are simply deleted due to forum rules regarding logging in every 60 days at the minimum. Another way is by Admin choice if someone is being a jerk or disruptive in other ways, again violating rules.

    The third is by member request as was the case today. Anyone that wants to be removed simply contacts me asking to be removed. With 200+ members I typically read the PM and delete them. Usually the individual will give a reason but I'm not going to debate their decision. If they ask to be removed, I do it. I also don't see any reason to post why anyone leaves when I receive a private correspondence, if they wanted it to be public they would have posted on the forum.

    This isn't a part of the job that I enjoy but it comes with the territory. I don't like to see people that I like leave but when they send that message it's not like I can (or should try) to convince them otherwise. We're all adults and I really have no interest in spending time discussing what is obviously a decision the person thought through.
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    rather disapointing to hear about all the members asking to be deleted, especially active ones. Only got to run on one trail with Scrat and he seemed like a pretty decent guy. Best wishes to them and will possibly run into them on the trail...unless they quit wheelin...
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    I received this today from ROKTAXI:

    Hey Chris, as you recall, I joined FR because we were planning on moving to Loveland. After much looking we decided to change course and look in GJ. We haven't sold our house yet but continue to explore GJ as our next home. With that said, the FR area is no longer on the horizon so I don't see any connection with the FR group in the future. What little contact I've had I really enjoyed but as this title says, it's time to let go.

    My best to all those that I've met and I'll always be available (as long as I'm still in Moab) to those that need assistance or info.

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    Marty is a great guy, never got to wheel with him but he helped immensely in Moab. I will miss him.

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    Received today:

    "Please add me to your list of removals, I don't foresee that we will be an "active member" as defined by the sites guidelines. Too many rules for my liking. I wish you the best in future endeavors. You're welcome to share my reasoning should it be questioned."

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    Happy Trails, Marty!!

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    Deleted due to inactivity - not logged in for over 60 days - Black Magic, Blazerswampthing, FirefytrJohnson, JeffX, & OldBlueRangler.
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    A question and a request:

    Q) Do you contact the member and notify them about the pending removal (with a link to the rules too), giving them "two weeks" notice? As I see a removal as permanent, I'd think it a respectable courtesy.

    R) Could you add their first name / some portion of their real name like you did with "RedHurricane (Mike)"?

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    Jim Williamson previously posted:
    "A question and a request:

    Q) Do you contact the member and notify them about the pending removal (with a link to the rules too), giving them "two weeks" notice? As I see a removal as permanent, I'd think it a respectable courtesy.

    R) Could you add their first name / some portion of their real name like you did with "RedHurricane (Mike)"?"

    No, I don't notify them and they haven't been on in 60 days, as an example the latest people haven't logged on since April 15th which means they haven't even looked at Trail Run sections which are visible to members only. That indicates a lack of interest. Everyone has to read the rules and the date they did it is recorded in their profile. I attached yours as an example. If they simply scrolled to the end of the rules w/o reading them so-be-it.

    I'll add their real name if I know it but not if I don't. The idea here is to have this as automated as possible, I don't want to spend any more time than is necessary tending to disinterested people. My goal is to make the forum as self-sustaining as possible with minimal administration.

    The people that do participate here are great people and the board is pretty much self-policing leaving administration pretty much to server related issues as it should be.

    Remember, the goal is not to have 1000 or 10,000 members. The idea is to have people interested in wheeling vs web-wheeling. This has always been the policy which I established after participating in other forums and examining the user numbers. I won't name any forums but on "open registration" forums the typical participation is around 10% of the "active members" which strikes me as pretty silly and meaningless.

    Front Range "active members" are 100% of the membership.
         
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    Wow , Sure sorry to see Robyn gone. Scrat too but after seeing his Jeep up for sale on Craigs list it wasn't as much of a surprise as Robyn. Wishing them both all the best .

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    what ever happened to Josh (Haku)? after I got done with BMT, he was just gone.

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    That was under Aaron's administration which IIRC was documented somewhere along with a number of others who were removed and ultimately started their own club - The Colorado Trails Rats formerly Outkasts 4x4.

    You reminded me of the exceptions regarding activity knowing you are in Oklahoma. Active military are exempted if they are deployed and cannot access the web as well as members who are employed where that's the case. Right now we have a member in China where internet access is not as we know it here and since he let me know won't get deleted.
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