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97 TJ
Some of you are aware that I've sold the 4runner and bought a TJ. Found it with 102k miles on the clock and in pretty good shape, no rust, and has the 0630 head.
Some details:
- it came with a light bar, Smitty(shitty)bilt front and rear bumpers, 2in budget boost, Rancho 5000x shocks, 33x12.5's, side-steps, half doors, and we can't forget the mismatched 31in spare. :lmao:
Here's the day I brought it home:
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Here's how it sits now:
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Picked up an SYE kit from a fella for 20 bucks this weekend. Completely unopened.
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Nice! I don't think your pics worked though, unless it's just my phone...
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[QUOTE=Steve-O;343469]Nice! I don't think your pics worked though, unless it's just my phone...[/QUOTE]
nope - no pics on my PC
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Sorry about that, how about now?
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Interested in a bumper, instatrunk, or some fabric doors? I have a bunch of TJ parts to get rid of soon.
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[quote=open_circuit;343474]Interested in a bumper, instatrunk, or some fabric doors? I have a bunch of TJ parts to get rid of soon.[/quote]
Maybe? I'm planning on getting a new top and new doors soon, the soft top is pretty trashed. I also have a growing pile of Jeep stuff in the garage that I'm trying to sell...
What's an instatrunk?
If anyone wants I've got two lightly worn 33x12.5r15 BFG k02 and one new one I'm trying to offload. Putting some 31's on to start with...
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[url]https://www.bestop.com/products/instatrunk-modular-kit-jeep-1997-2006-wrangler-tj/?sku=4270101&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5uWGBhCTARIsAL70sLJbwpngDC4CxOtafuotRuvkA1Ge2PcZ4v28HzrLMwanSCDmx0pmjCQaAm91EALw_wcB[/url]
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I'll pass, I've pulled out the whole rear bench and hardware for something like the SecurityDeck or a drawer like I was planning for the 4runner. Thanks though!
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Nice Jeep! That's low miles for a 97, good score. :thumb: How much do you want for the 33s?
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[quote=Paul;343482]How much do you want for the 33s?[/quote]
I dunno, $300?
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interested, thank you. how much wear do they have, can you send or post a pic?
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[quote=Paul;343488]can you send or post a pic?[/quote]
1 step ahead of ya: [url]https://boulder.craigslist.org/wto/d/longmont-33x125r15-bf-goodrich-ta-ko2/7343517662.html[/url]
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Not sure about the tires, but I see you need a top; I have this half top with rear window hanging in my garage, I'll trade for any small token of gratitude. That offer is open to anyone if you're not interested. It fits 97-02 so it's awkward on my Jeep, i got it for next to nothing a few years ago. this pic is the only use it's had:
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Thanks Paul, a 12-pack of your favorite suds perhaps? :D
I've got another ad for misc things I've pulled off the TJ, I'll keep it updated with more stuff as time progresses.
[URL]https://boulder.craigslist.org/pts/d/longmont-jeep-tj-wrangler-parts/7338335255.html[/URL]
I rejuvenated the seat cushion with some moving blankets from Harbor Freight, temporary fix:
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Focusing on more important things I've got my sights on these spacers. I'd like to ditch them for some proper coils, better flex, and actual 2in of lift. Looking at BDS 2in lift kit and pairing it with a set of 31s.
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2.5" lift got me to 33 x 10.5 tires with only very minor rubbing. With the LJ I didn't need the SYE, but TJ will likely have issues with rear driveshaft angles with that lift unless you do something about rear pinion or go with SYE kit, I think.
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Yeah, I'm noticing some drivetrain vibrations when accelerating that feels like it's coming from the back. Luckily I scored that SYE NP231 kit this weekend.
[quote=open_circuit;343495]2.5" lift got me to 33 x 10.5 tires with only very minor rubbing.[/quote]
What lift kit? are they actually 33x10.5 or are they metric? I'm looking at 31x10.5r15 Duratracs. Correct me if I'm wrong here but my thinking is that I'll keep it pretty mild with mods for now and upgrade to a longarm kit in the future.
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The lift was installed before I bought the Jeep. It appears to be OME 2.5, but the springs have Rancho stickers on them. It might be cobbled together a bit. I run BFG KO2s in 33x10.5xr15 (not metric). I rub just a bit under some extreme full lock / tire stuffed into fender, but I could probably resolve that with some high line / flat fenders. 33x10.5 is enough that I can run just about anything I want to given that I don't have any lockers. The Jeep had 30x9.5xr15 with a 1" transfer case drop when I bought it -- I really hated this configuration. I removed the drop kit (1" more clearance on transfer case skid) and put 33s on and have been very happy with the Jeep since.
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Trent has a pretty sweet set-up on his LJ - functional on both street and trail....On the shorter wheelbase TJ, 33s will have more functional clearance with break-over angle and such (the longer wheelbase can have some traction advantage though in certain terrain conditions). I run 33x10.5 on my even shorter wheelbase cj5 and it feels like it can keep up with longer 4dr jeeps and such that are on 35s.At the same time, its pretty amazing what a small, short wheelbase jeep can get through without large lift or tires. Although most of the newer jeeps on the rubicon are running 37s, there are still a few early cjs doing fine on 31s. FWIW - you can get BFGs mud-terrain tire in a 33x10.5r15 as well if you are looking for more aggressive tread pattern. But, be aware that many of the traditional (non p-metric) tires sizes are rated at LT, and thus have a bit stiffer sidewall and may make the ride a bit more harsh, and/or lower air pressure might be warranted.
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I like the half doors and windows out!
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[QUOTE=rckymtnt4r;343494]Thanks Paul, a 12-pack of your favorite suds perhaps? :D [/QUOTE]
It's yours, I can PM you my address and leave it on my porch, you can get it 24/7 whenever, no need to call first or anything. i can also just bring it if we're on a trail run together. I don't drink, but I'm a big dispensary fan, especially sledgehammer type kush and sticky indicas. :thumb: I could also use some big carboard or masonite or plywood pieces, I'm making a fiberglass box about 32" x 20" x 48" and need to make a mold. If you don't have anything to trade you can just call me pretty.
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[quote=FINOCJ;343501]Trent has a pretty sweet set-up on his LJ - functional on both street and trail....On the shorter wheelbase TJ, 33s will have more functional clearance with break-over angle and such (the longer wheelbase can have some traction advantage though in certain terrain conditions). I run 33x10.5 on my even shorter wheelbase cj5 and it feels like it can keep up with longer 4dr jeeps and such that are on 35s.At the same time, its pretty amazing what a small, short wheelbase jeep can get through without large lift or tires. Although most of the newer jeeps on the rubicon are running 37s, there are still a few early cjs doing fine on 31s. FWIW - you can get BFGs mud-terrain tire in a 33x10.5r15 as well if you are looking for more aggressive tread pattern. But, be aware that many of the traditional (non p-metric) tires sizes are rated at LT, and thus have a bit stiffer sidewall and may make the ride a bit more harsh, and/or lower air pressure might be warranted.[/quote]
James, I've been tossing this around a bit and have gone back and forth between 31's and 33's.
Here's where I'm at:
When I drove this thing with 33x12.5s on it for the first two weeks of owning it it felt like it had no suspension and I think the wheels/tires were just too heavy for the suspension. Been kicking around on some little 235's on stock TJ Canyon wheels (while I figure out what I want to do) and the ride is enjoyable by comparison. I know these are little trucks and I'm used to driving my oh-so-soft Volvo around so my butt needs to adjust. :lmao:
I've spent some time in the past few days digging through old TJ forum posts about tire sizes (and the seemingly endless debates about the lift/tire combos) and I'm liking what I'm reading about people's experience with a 2in lift and 31's in combination with disconnects and SYE. The consensus is that it'll get you just about anywhere except for the really difficult trails. I also want to avoid putting so-big-a-tire on it that it takes the challenge out of it as well as keeping a LCOG.
Here's a reference for "stance", the lighting is bad but it's the closest thing that represents what I'm going after I will be adding a roof rack at some point as well:
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3in suspension lift acquired (Thanks Mike!) ... I guess I'm going with 33's
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[QUOTE=rckymtnt4r;343691]3in suspension lift acquired... I guess I'm going with 33's
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I think you will be happy with the lift and 33's as long as your gearing supports them. I know the closer I get to the right gearing the more I enjoy running the 33"S, I have 4.10s right now a great improvement over 3.07s gears '(great on the trail and closer to great on the highway). I have everything bought and ready to build the axles with 4.55 gears. I think that will be the sweet spot !
With the manual tranny (ax-15)
Congratulations with your rig!!!!
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[quote=JandDGreens;343696]I think you will be happy with the lift and 33's as long as your gearing supports them.[/quote]
It's a 97 and I have no idea what the gearing is but it does have the AX15. I think I'll put some chromo shafts in with a regear and locker (rear) with a TruTrac (front). That should cover the bases. Also, going with 33x10.5 in a KM3 I think... gotta love skinnys.
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If you have factory gearing you might be able to check your build configuration by following these instructions ([url]https://hourlesslife.com/jeep-build-sheet/[/url]). Since you have a '97, this may not work for you. I was able to pull a build sheet for my 2005 this way.
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[QUOTE=rckymtnt4r;343714]It's a 97 and I have no idea what the gearing is but it does have the AX15. I think I'll put some chromo shafts in with a regear and locker (rear) with a TruTrac (front). That should cover the bases. Also, going with 33x10.5 in a KM3 I think... gotta love skinnys.[/QUOTE]
I'm extremely happy with my Ko2's 33"x12.5" they are great in all conditions. I like the off road and snow wheeling characteristics the most. And feel that the value $ for $ is better then most tires on the market. Some day I'll have to poney up for another set. I won't hesitate to buy them again.
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[quote=open_circuit;343716]check your build configuration by following these instructions[/quote]
Bam, there it is. Got it.
[QUOTE][SIZE=2][FONT=arial]Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System
Dana 30/186MM Front AxleDana M35/194MM Rear Axle[/FONT][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
[quote=JandDGreens;343717]Ko2's 33"x12.5" they are great in all conditions.[/quote]
KO2's are great. I've been reading through numerous [I]seemingly ancient (circa 2007)[/I] forum posts on tire choices, and some more recent youtube videos from the guys at 4Wheeling Australia. I wanted to understand the idea behind tire width in an offroading sense, coming from an autoX/sportscar background. Without writing a blog about the differences it boils down to a) rotational mass/unsprung weight b) clearance c) contact pressure and d) floatation.
I also like the look of skinnies. :D
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[quote=rckymtnt4r;343719]KO2's are great. I've been reading through numerous seemingly ancient (circa 2007) forum posts on tire choices, and some more recent youtube videos from the guys at 4Wheeling Australia. I wanted to understand the idea behind tire width in an offroading sense, coming from an autoX/sportscar background. Without writing a blog about the differences it boils down to a) rotational mass/unsprung weight b) clearance c) contact pressure and d) floatation.
I also like the look of skinnies.[/quote]
I like the 33x10.5 since they work with my rig with virtually no rubbing on the stock Canyon wheels and tuck in under the fenders nicely. 12.5" wide tires would require me to get new wheels or wheel spacers. Plus they weigh less, as you've noted.
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I refinished a set of 5 8-hole steelies (15x8 3.75BS) this weekend in a satin black rustoleum. I'll be mounting the 33's to them. This thing is gonna look good [I]real soon.[/I]
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[quote=rckymtnt4r;343691]3in suspension lift acquired (Thanks Mike!) ... I guess I'm going with 33's[/quote]
Glad I could help Rick and glad they are going to a good home!! I know you will enjoy the lift, great ride, prefect height for 33's.
Love the look of the black wheels and can't wait to see it all put together! Again, if your missing parts, let me know and I'll dig through my buckets. ;)
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[quote=TjMike;343724]Again, if your missing parts, let me know and I'll dig through my buckets.[/quote]
If you've got the swaybar disconnect frame-pins laying around let me know. I put the front and rear swaybar links on last night in a whiskey-fuelled fervor and debated just making my own "pins" from some fun bolts found at Ace Hardware (I love that store more than an open bar).
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First off, nice TJ :)
Second off I can confirm what James just said. My short wheelbase (slightly longer than a TJ) JL at "stock" (Rubicon trim technically 1" lift) height and 33s was super capable. I'm a big fan of short wheelbase :)
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[quote=rckymtnt4r;343726]If you've got the swaybar disconnect frame-pins laying around let me know. I put the front and rear swaybar links on last night in a whiskey-fuelled fervor and debated just making my own "pins" from some fun bolts found at Ace Hardware (I love that store more than an open bar).[/quote]
I have them sitting on my work bench. I saw them yesterday when you were here but didnt think of it. PM/text me if you want to stop by or meet up somewhere.
Whiskey fueled fevor? only good decisions come from that ;)
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[quote=TjMike;343729]PM/text me if you want to stop by or meet up somewhere.
Whiskey fueled fevor? only good decisions come from that[/quote]
Sure, bring them to the next meet and I'll grab them from ya. Decisions like being productive lol.
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Got the winch plate and recovery gear in.
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test fitting on the front.
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Cleaning up holes and making sure mating surfaces are free of debris:
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All mounted and ready for wiring:
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making cuts for the wires:
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Checking clearance:
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Nice and clean:
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Getting the other panel cut and checked:
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Make sure to lube your gear: :D
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Smoke testing:
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POWAAAAA and the winch is functional:
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Come out for Miller in the morning and put that winch to work!
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I would but the Jeep is currently in "HoverJeep" mode in the garage.:D