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Looks awesome!
I'm hitting the map to see what your plan is!
Isak, that itinerary looks pretty awesome! 6 days is a hell of a trip. Need to talk to the wife because if I do this I wont have enough PTO to go anywhere over the holidays (fine by me, probably not her lol)
I would be down for an in person planning of this trip, get together, look at some maps, drink 20 long islands.... boom we have a trip planned! Thoughts? I'm thinking sometime before Feb 5, so the next two weeks.
I have two others who originally showed interest from my overlandbound group. I was thinking 6 rigs max and we'd just have to find two campsites closeish. My wife has to be back in town by the 21st at some point because she has to work on the 22nd in the morning to babysit some kids. The new moon is on the 17th so hopefully that's still okay. We both got really sick in WI and came back 4 days early, missed family Christmas and got to drive 2 days feeling ill, not fun. Haven't looked at this since then, almost back to 100% now after 3 weeks.
I looked at Isak's plan in more detail detail and I like it based on the map. We could probably head back to CO on day 5 if needed, just a really long day. Probably stop for a shower in Moab before the 6.5 hour drive home. I've got unlimited PTO so I've got whatever for time. Also, I know a guy who has some nice RV Starlink..... :D I like the hiking trails by The Doll House and Maze Overlook sites too.
Since we're not bringing the dog because she's not allowed in the park, I'll have extra room and I'm considering bringing my 2 burner Blackstone grill, could make some nice meals!
I'm very much down for an in-person planning meeting. I live in Denver by the zoo. Work schedule is all over the place right now but I'm free in the evenings except Jan 27-30.
Mike - I was thinking going from Wed 6/14 to Mon 6/19 in my initial timeline, so you guys will be back well before the 22nd.
I have some time after this weekend and before 2/5 if we do a meet up.
This book is excellent for scheming and dreaming about Canyonlands, it's spent countless hours in my bathroom. :thumb: [url]https://www.amazon.com/Canyonlands-National-Favorite-Hiking-Trails/dp/0966085825[/url]
I posted an official Rally Point on overlandbound.com ([URL]https://www.overlandbound.com/event/the-maze-district-new-moon-weekend/[/URL]). If anyone wants to create an account there and RSVP, let me know. I've listed the max rigs as 4 over there since we don't want more than 6 and 3 of us here are committed right now. Since we're not bringing the dog, the seats in the Jeep can go down and I'll have tons of space, I'm thinking of bringing my 22" Blackstone for some nice meals. Maybe someone different can cook something each night? I don't know, would be good to discuss in an in-person planning session. I'd be down for a half way meet, I know Jim is up North by me but Isak shows Denver. Otherwise we could all meet at someones place too. I think the plan that Isak presented is good. I mapped it in Gaia, assuming I have the correct route, I show 242 miles from Hanksville to Hanksville ([URL]https://www.gaiagps.com/map/?loc=8.7/-110.6174/38.3337&pubLink=3GfsbVuCYcQua4Fh2zmXq3hQ&trackId=25ad37ec-c473-4069-908a-e5c8c2aad95e[/URL]). I'll probably get myself a 5 gallon tank to bring along, gives me an excuse to spend some money on the Jeep! "but wife, we NEED this or we'll DIE! :eek:"
[quote=hiimmike;350667]I'll probably get myself a 5 gallon tank[/quote]
I assume you're talking drinking water. Not to dissuade you. I went with 1 gallon Arizona ice tea jugs. They are the thick, durable plastic with a wide flat bottom. 0.02
My visit with Matt and Trent, we met at Hanksville. We arrived reasonably close to each other in time as well. If folks wish to meet up somewhere - the downtown / city park in Idaho Springs tickles my brain (food and fuel nearby, public washroom at the park).
Was there any thought to having one end of the dirt be in OR out via Poison Springs road (vs. the northern / formal entrance that's listed on the map for both in and out). Poison Springs perhaps would take longer - but the scenery is "more better".
I have track logs with drive times from the past visit if that'd help.
Jim - I was planning on going in through Poison Springs road and going out the Southern route of Flint Trail road, so we would avoid the “formal” entrance all together.
Sweet! I could "pass" on the formal northern entrance. I would like to see the southern entrance route!
The Gaia URL Mike posted has shows an in/out via the formal 'north' entrance - that's where I'm seeing the info.
[quote=Jim;350671]I assume you're talking drinking water. Not to dissuade you. I went with 1 gallon Arizona ice tea jugs. They are the thick, durable plastic with a wide flat bottom. 0.02[/quote]
Nope, talking fuel. Although, I could also get a 5 gallon something for long islands..... Seriously though, I plan to bring 5 gallons extra fuel. It looks like it's 242 miles and I think that's going to be close for me off-road. I've got 37s on the Jeep now (no lift yet so I can't wheel until I sell my stock wheels and buy a lift) so my fuel economy is going to tank. I don't really even know how big my gas tank is. My manual says 21.5 gallons but I've never filled up more than 18 and I thought I read somewhere it's an 18.5 gallon tank, or 16.5 gallon, can't remember. Now I'm off on this quest to figure out what my fuel tank size actually is on the 2.0L motor. Anyway, If I assume 18 gallons and want at least 1 gallon buffer, that gives me 17 gallons at 14mpg (guestimate as I'm usually around 8-10 in 4Lo on trails) which puts me at 238 miles. So, I [I]should [/I]make it but I better grab a 5 gallon canister just to be safe.
As far as water, I'm planning on getting a 5 gallon jug with the Dometic faucet. I have $100 credit at REI so I'll use that to get the faucet. It appears we can hike down to the lovely crystal clear Colorado River from Doll House sites 1 & 2 and I have a Platypus gravity filter, do I want to carry 5 gallons of water the couple miles, not really but I gotta do what I gotta do. Maybe I'll just buy two 5 gallon water jugs, I don't know. I'm tired of bringing 5-6 1 gallon jugs though. It's time to upgrade.
[quote=Jim;350674]The Gaia URL Mike posted has shows an in/out via the formal 'north' entrance - that's where I'm seeing the info.[/quote]
Yeah, that's all I saw for entrance/exit. I'm down for another route and not having to backtrack all the way back Northwest. I'm easily confused, the reason I suggested an in person planning session. I like this talk of going through this Poison Springs road area.
[quote=hiimmike;350676]the reason I suggested an in person planning session.[/quote]
I'm open to that - my cell phone will do at least three parties - maybe four (haven't tested more).
I'd think the major planning obstacle is what reservations are we able to secure. Once reservations are secured, solid planning can happen. For now, I'm good with firm/firm-ish start and end dates with a question-mark in the middle of those dates.
EDIT: I attached the GPS tracklog (GPX format) from my prior trip - FWIW
Dollhouse to the river via Spanish Bottom Trail
Approx 1.2 miles with 1200 feet elevation difference.
What do you guys use to look at GPX or GAIA files? I don’t have an app that can open them. As for the campsites, I think if we log in right on the 10th we should be able to book whatever we want since this part of the park is less used, but I guess we’ll find out.
[quote=Mountaineer01;350679]What do you guys use to look at GPX or GAIA files[/quote]
I use a Garmin GPS V to track my travels. The associated Garmin MapSource program is my interface when working with the GPS files. I do not know if MapSource is available for free download/use.
So far, I have not toyed with Gaia though some day I might.
[quote=hiimmike;350675]I plan to bring 5 gallons extra fuel. It looks like it's 242 miles and I think that's going to be close for me off-road.[/quote]
From Jim's previous trip he had 5 gallons and that was barely enough. I don't know how you guys compare in terms of fuel tank size and efficiency, but I plan to bring 10 gallons myself. My old V8 is not known for fuel efficiency :lmao:
[QUOTE=Mountaineer01;350679]What do you guys use to look at GPX or GAIA files? I don’t have an app that can open them. As for the campsites, I think if we log in right on the 10th we should be able to book whatever we want since this part of the park is less used, but I guess we’ll find out.[/QUOTE]
The Gaia GPS app is what I use. You can get gpx files for free for a lot of routes from trailsoffroad.com or other off-road websites. You need to pay for a yearly subscription but it is not very expensive and definitely worth it. I’ve used it for almost 5 years now and I used it on our Maze trip a couple years ago