Front Range 4x4 Upcoming Trail Runs - Add a New Trail Run

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 31

Thread: This crap pisses me off

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Member
    #507
    Last Online
    February 15th, 2014
    Location
    Fort Collins
    4x4
    2004 Nissan Xterra
    Posts
    1,373
    User Name
    Andrew
    Real Name
    Andrew
    Thanks Given
    0
    Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts

    Default This crap pisses me off



    From CNN:

    A Johns Hopkins University student killed an apparent burglar with a samurai sword after discovering the man in his garage, police said Tuesday.

    Baltimore, Maryland, police received a phone call shortly before 1:30 a.m. Tuesday about a suspicious person, and an off-duty officer arrived at the scene with campus security, city police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said.
    When authorities arrived, they heard calls for help and for police, he said. They discovered a suspected burglar with a severed left hand and severe lacerations to his upper body, Guglielmi said.

    The suspect died at the scene, he said.

    The man had entered a home where several Johns Hopkins students lived, Guglielmi said. Four students, one armed with a samurai sword, had confronted the suspect in the garage.

    The man "lunged" at the students, and the student with the sword defended himself, severing the man's left hand and cutting his upper body, Guglielmi said.

    Police did not release the name of the suspect, who Guglielmi said had a long criminal history, or that of the student.

    Police questioned the three witnesses, Guglielmi said, and released them. It was not immediately clear whether all four students lived at the house, he said.

    Authorities are determining whether the student will face criminal charges, Guglielmi said.

    Burglars had taken two laptops and a Sony PlayStation from the students' home Monday, Guglielmi said.

    The burglary suspect had been released from prison Saturday, Guglielmi said.

    ____________________________________________

    Okay after I get over the coolness factor of this guy chopping this burglar with a samurai sword - I then read the rest. They are "determining" whether to charge the student? Open and shut case as far as I'm concerned. Definitely didn't happen in Texas.

    I don't see how you can even think there should be any criminal charges against the student in any way shape or form - and if there is that thought, then the story doesn't cover everything obviously.

  2. #2

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    I am sure Nancy Pelosi will push for legislation that would outlaw any knives larger than 3", since we all know people don't kill, weapons do...

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Member
    #103
    Last Online
    August 9th, 2012
    Posts
    10,588
    User Name
    Brody
    Real Name
    Pete Brody

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    Since the burglar was chilled out, it would have been time to grab a pipe or anything that looked like a weapon, wrap his remaining hand around it and drag the dumbass into the house to let him finish bleeding out. "Yup, we caught him in the garage and he chased us inside the house with (pipe, shovel, baseball bat...whatever) and I grabbed the nearest thing handy to protect myself. It just happened to be this razor sharp katana...Yes sir, officer, sir. That was the way it happened. There it is right in his hand"

    They made a mistake by not doing this as, technically, he wasn't in the house, which you can defend as you see fit, and he didn't have a weapon that justified using a sword for defense. What I would've done for sure, but I am not a nice guy when strangers are caught messing with my stuff.

    I feel sorry for the kid that tagged him with the sword. He will probably either spend a fortune staying out of jail or do time for 'unreasonable force' simply because the guy didn't have any kind of weapon either in his hand or with his prints on it.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Member
    #507
    Last Online
    February 15th, 2014
    Location
    Fort Collins
    4x4
    2004 Nissan Xterra
    Posts
    1,373
    User Name
    Andrew
    Real Name
    Andrew
    Thanks Given
    0
    Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    Yeah but that's what pisses me off. Shouldn't be a need to do that.

    I don't care if he didn't have a weapon - in that situation you CAN be afraid if the guy comes at you because you don't KNOW what he has or doesn't have. You don't have time to stop and think about it or say hey - are you armed?

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Member
    #103
    Last Online
    August 9th, 2012
    Posts
    10,588
    User Name
    Brody
    Real Name
    Pete Brody

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    Andrew previously posted:
    "Yeah but that's what pisses me off. Shouldn't be a need to do that.

    I don't care if he didn't have a weapon - in that situation you CAN be afraid if the guy comes at you because you don't KNOW what he has or doesn't have. You don't have time to stop and think about it or say hey - are you armed?"

    I agree totally. First sort the dude out, then you need to arranged the scene so it reads nicely.

    Still shouldn't have to jump through hoops because some stranger was where he wasn't supposed to be...like in your garage or house...I hear a strange noise in my house at night and I grab the 44 or the 12, both hot, and check it out, buck ass naked. Don't care about the naked part, just want to see what is up. It would be the shoot first, ask questions later deal...and the dude would have one of our kitchen knives gripped in his hand when the cops arrived.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Member
    #509
    Last Online
    June 12th, 2016
    Location
    Green Valley Ranch
    4x4
    Colorado Z71
    Posts
    887
    User Name
    BlackRubi
    Real Name
    Kyle Payne
    Thanks Given
    0
    Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    I love the "Make my day" laws!
    There should be absolutely no reason that he should face ANY charges! He was defending himself. EVERYONE has the inherent right to self-defense!

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Member
    #1
    Last Online
    November 21st, 2023
    Location
    Port St. Lucie, FL
    Age
    73
    4x4
    4Runner
    Posts
    14,279
    User Name
    Chris
    Real Name
    Chris
    Thanks Given
    576
    Thanked 801 Times in 591 Posts

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    He won't be charged.
    ___________
    Chris in Florida

  8. #8
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Member
    #453
    Last Online
    December 19th, 2020
    Location
    Longmont
    Age
    66
    4x4
    2008 FJ Cruiser/1982 FJ40
    Posts
    4,990
    User Name
    Rob
    Real Name
    Rob
    Thanks Given
    3
    Thanked 122 Times in 106 Posts

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    Chris previously posted:
    "He won't be charged. "

    I agree. Law enforcement officials and district attorneys say that because it's their job to determine if a crime has been committed and whether there's enough evidence to file charges. They're just going through the motions.

  9. #9

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    Brody previously posted:
    "I agree totally. First sort the dude out, then you need to arranged the scene so it reads nicely.

    Still shouldn't have to jump through hoops because some stranger was where he wasn't supposed to be...like in your garage or house...I hear a strange noise in my house at night and I grab the 44 or the 12, both hot, and check it out, buck ass naked. Don't care about the naked part, just want to see what is up. It would be the shoot first, ask questions later deal...and the dude would have one of our kitchen knives gripped in his hand when the cops arrived."

    Wow, remind us not to piss you off, EVER!

  10. #10

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    Well it did not say whether the burglar had a weapon or not from reading this so leaves it wide open for the d+ckhead politicians to wrap their feeble minds around.
    I sure hope the kid does not get charged with anything and GOOD for him for taking another piece of crap out of this world!

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Member
    #522
    Last Online
    January 2nd, 2014
    Location
    Boulder/Lakewood
    Age
    31
    4x4
    1988 Toyota Landcruiser (FJ62)
    Posts
    2,562
    User Name
    Mporter
    Real Name
    Matt
    Thanks Given
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    Way to be...Maryland. When i was back there in july, like every 3rd news story was about someone getting mugged, robbed, raped, or killed....

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Member
    #103
    Last Online
    August 9th, 2012
    Posts
    10,588
    User Name
    Brody
    Real Name
    Pete Brody

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    SubaCool previously posted:
    "Wow, remind us not to piss you off, EVER! "

    Well, I usually hurt too much when I get up that I am not in the greatest of moods anyway, strange sounds in the night bother me, and, if you enter someone else's house or garage without their knowledge or invite, you are taking your chances to begin with.

    With my house or campsite, it would just be the wrong damn one, with the wrong guy, PO'd cause he was woken up to begin with, looking to protect his wife first, his possessions second and himself third, and armed with a serious piece...and one who has absolutely zero tolerance for that kind of stuff. No talking, just bang...or bang bang just to make sure...Of course, with the 12 it may be just one. The first round in that for home defense is 10 dimes....

  13. #13

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    you all got it all wrong, dont you know that in these days and age, if your the criminal you are the one who has been violated because you were just simply robbing someone... its perfectly legal to rob someone. you were just doing your job and some kid came up to ya and sliced ya up, he is the guilty party....



  14. #14
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Member
    #507
    Last Online
    February 15th, 2014
    Location
    Fort Collins
    4x4
    2004 Nissan Xterra
    Posts
    1,373
    User Name
    Andrew
    Real Name
    Andrew
    Thanks Given
    0
    Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    I have got a box of 00 buckshot that goes in my 12 for home defense. None of that bird shot crap.

    I could go super nuts and get deer slugs.

  15. #15

    Default I shot a guy in my home once!!



    The short version is like this... I was in the Military, my house was sort of a hang out (had a game room, pool, etc) and I was supposed to be in my home port (San Diego) on Sunday... word usually got around so parties and so on could happen when I was there.

    Well we skipped a stop in frisco coming down from Washington and arrived in port on Friday night. I came home... surprise there is some fu&ker in my house. Luckily he had not found the guns, but in the hall closet I kept a shotgun loaded with rubber and salt rock rounds.

    So the final seconds went like this... "Mother fu%cker you better run... I got a gun!!"

    Me = him =

    So lucky for me he was down the hall and the only way out was a 2 story window, or a locked door to a deck which he opted for... when he tried to open it and found it locked he turned toward me (HUGE mistake as I had already chambered a round :lol BOOM!! Salt to the check from say 20 feet!

    At this point he gave up trying to run and I was able to call the cops...

    When they showed up and secured the place and had possession of all weapons on site they arrested him, then literally laughed their asses off.

    I think 3 things helped, especially being in CA...

    He turned towards me
    I was in uniform when this happened and when they arrived
    All weapons were legal

    There were more details, but that's the gist of it.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Member
    #103
    Last Online
    August 9th, 2012
    Posts
    10,588
    User Name
    Brody
    Real Name
    Pete Brody

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    I like that! I bet that you never ever had any other problems, either, the whole rest of the time you were there.

    In my house I would have had to get the wet vac and a mop...

  17. #17

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    Brody previously posted:
    "I like that! I bet that you never ever had any other problems, either, the whole rest of the time you were there.

    In my house I would have had to get the wet vac and a mop..."

    The guy ended up being a friend of a friend of a friend... so he sorta knew I was not supposed to be home. I never knew who all might have been involved, none the less.

    Anyways I heard he was going to sue me... but I never heard from him or the law about it again.

    Believe me, if other guns would have been closer to me the outcome would have been different, but I was happy with how it turned out.

  18. #18

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    Rock salt is the sh$t! I use it to tune-up stray dogs/coyotes that come after my livestock. They run like hell and yelp like their ass is on fire when I hit them with a 12ga rock salt round. I can't imagine getting a a face full of that crap!

    For home defense it is either the 45ACP or 7.62 NATO. Either one will put the intruder in a world of hurt.

  19. #19

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    colomil previously posted:
    "Rock salt is the sh$t! I use it to tune-up stray dogs/coyotes ...

    For home defense it is either the 45ACP or 7.62 NATO. Either one will put the intruder in a world of hurt."

    Tune-up... LMAO, makes em run better does it? :lol::lol:

    Yeah, I have a 1911 and the has a 9mm plus we have some other stuff too, but someone break in now... I'm making stains!

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Member
    #103
    Last Online
    August 9th, 2012
    Posts
    10,588
    User Name
    Brody
    Real Name
    Pete Brody

    Default Re: This crap pisses me off



    I had my one and only experience with rock salt and a 12 gauge when I was about 9 years old. A couple of friends of mine and I were jacking some sweet watermelons from a neighboring farmers field one night and he tagged both of us. Almost 50 years later I still remember it...Oh...and we didn't do it again, either...

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Tired of this crap!!!
    By Funrover in forum General Topics
    Replies: 30
    Last Post: March 3rd, 2009, 05:00 PM
  2. Emissons crap
    By 4Runninfun in forum General Topics
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: September 12th, 2008, 12:40 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
BACK TO TOP