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    Great pictures and captions Brody and I am looking at Steve's next, thanks!

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    Great pictures and some great humor, too! It really was a good run! I thought that the trail was more challenging than when we did it last year even though there was nothing broken on my heap this time.

    I don't know what they rate it, but it seems to be about as hard as Spring Creek to me, but easier than Carnage, Boulder...

    Speaking of Wells...and trails...I wonder if he knows about the recent closure of Carnage Boulder, the new 'proposed' rock garden there, and the closure of parts of Slaughterhouse and Crow Gulch? I wonder if he knows of the existence of traildamage.com...

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    That was a blast of a trail and I 'm glad to have finially gotten to do the trail. I am glad we got Steph to trust the spotter and keep her head in the FJ... now we have to work on Hugh and hanging half his body out the window...

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    I am so jealous.
    I wish I could have gone.
    I need to test out Brody's new skid plate!

    Looks like you got through well, Stephanie.

    BTW, great pics.

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    Hey Danny

    Like your new avatar! Bring your rig with the skid over to Bear's this weekend if you can so he can diss it! I would like his input, too. Sorry that you couldn't make it..

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    Nay previously posted:
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    I really want to do Holy Cross in '09 "

    That's a fun trail!!

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    Pathrat previously posted:
    "First, Captain Chaos, points for the reference to the old guys in the balcony on The Muppet Show...LMAO in real time."

    Loved that show! The Milton Berle episode comes to mind

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    I think that the difficulty of the trail should reflect not just the number and type of obstacles, and distance but whether the obstacles have bypasses. I like Nay's example: Kelly Flats is difficult, but those Chutes have a bypass. The ones on OCG are not, therefore in my opinion, OCG should be rated as more difficult.

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    In a way it is like climbing ratings. They vary a lot, usually be area. The only thing that doesn't change is the overall difficulty of the hardest move, which is where the rating comes from. Some areas, like Eldorado, have 15-20' of hard climbing in them, with easier climbing on both sides of it. These seem hard because you haven't done hard climbing to get to the harder 'crux. Other areas, like Canyonlands, Red Rocks Nevada, and Yosemite have climbs that start hard and stay that way. These always seem like harder climbs, although the climbs might have the same difficulty rating, simply because of the sustainedness of the climbing.

    Other areas rate there climbs by the length of the difficult section. Say a climb has a hard and long section of 5.10c/d in it. One area will rate it 5.10c/d while another will rate it 5.11a, like Devil's Tower. I like this one the best because it reflects a more 'real world' feel to the climb.

    Anyway, the same can be said for the 4x trails. Still doesn't make either one especially easy to rate. Throw some snow, mud and crapola weather into the mix and the rating, whether rock climbing or 4xwheeling is going to go out the window....

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