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    Coming in 2020, same year as the electric Wrangler and the new Bronco.





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    Saw this today also. Could be a market changer or a huge flop. The specs I saw today look ok.

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    I'd like to see electric rock crawlers / buggies... in-wheel motors to boot - the day will come! (a few years after electric trucks come out and they're old, beat and ready to be hacked)

    individual wheel slip control - sweet

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    Jim previously posted:
    "individual wheel slip control - sweet"

    and individual wheel directional rotation... literally turn-on-a-dime.
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    Interesting and might be a ranch workhorse, but I still don't see this as an off road vehicle.

    Here's my issue. They are not stating how long it takes for a recharge. They state that it comes with three different power choices 105 kWh, 135 kWh, and 180 kWh. These power levels equate both to additional weight as well as additional range. They don't state the weight change but the range associated with each power level is 230+ miles, 300+ miles, and 400+ miles. As with all electric vehicles they do not equate range with the type of terrain or strain on the engine either. So if you get the lightest weight system with 105kWh power then your range is 230+ miles on normal highways. So at best any of these are only good for one maybe an overnight out in the mountains. Since there is no place to plug it in out there, you had better make sure you have enough reserve to get back.

    I do like the undercarriage being flat, but think that it would require additional body armor (weight reducing range) in order to protect puncturing it on an off road adventure.

    To me this looks more for the overlander than the off roader.

    Add some solar panels to the roof of the cab, a small API generator to the rear and maybe you would be able to extend the range. But running out of juice out on the range is going to make recover more difficult. Not going to just be able to throw a 5gal can of fuel into it.
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    I'm still waiting on the Mr. Fusion that Back to the Future promised us would power our electric vehicles....

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    Eagle6 previously posted:
    "the range associated with each power level is 230+ miles, 300+ miles, and 400+ miles."

    I'd take a 400 mile range. Just stirring the pot a little bit - but my cj5 in stock form had a 10gal tank - so at 12-14mpg, that would be 120-140 mile range. In my case, I added an 2nd fuel tank and can carry additional fuel cans when needed, but even then I still only have 400 miles of range. Agreed (as you say) its much easier to carry some extra fuel than to recharge batteries and I am not sure how the electric battery efficiency will decrease over time and usage whereas the combustion engine keeps the same mpg essentially for its whole life. As EVs develop more range, they will become more functional for many of us. And of course, just like with old 4x4s and spare fuel tanks, people will customize them to push more range by carrying more batteries and developing more charging options etc. It doesn't seem like we are there yet - but its getting closer and its kinda cool to see it develop.
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    FINOCJ previously posted:
    "I'd take a 400 mile range. Just stirring the pot a little bit - but my cj5 in stock form had a 10gal tank - so at 12-14mpg, that would be 120-140 mile range. In my case, I added an 2nd fuel tank and can carry additional fuel cans when needed, but even then I still only have 400 miles of range. Agreed (as you say) its much easier to carry some extra fuel than to recharge batteries and I am not sure how the electric battery efficiency will decrease over time and usage whereas the combustion engine keeps the same mpg essentially for its whole life. As EVs develop more range, they will become more functional for many of us. And of course, just like with old 4x4s and spare fuel tanks, people will customize them to push more range by carrying more batteries and developing more charging options etc. It doesn't seem like we are there yet - but its getting closer and its kinda cool to see it develop."

    All true by your can buy another truck and trailer and tow your CJ and carry all the gas you need for the rest of your wheeling life for the $70+K that this is going to cost you.
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    Range is a temporary issue. I'd be surprised if in the next 20 years finding gas will not be harder than finding a charger.



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    I agree Paul. In the end the insurance cost for driving your own car and the fuel costs for non electric vehicles will be luxuries only the rich can afford. I do see the day when all cars are self driving and by being 100% alert and proficient the inefficiencies of slow reaction times allow faster traffic flow on the same amount of road that we have today. To try and drive yourself will be a hazard because you cannot keep up with the traffic decision making and speed. Your electric truck will tow your classic/show/race car to the show/track/trail.

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    Swank, that sounds like heaven for commuting. I rather hope (and expect) that before we get to that point, there will be a long period where freeways, highways, and other high-priority routes are all "autonomous car only", but private drivers will be allowed to use certain secondary or tertiary roads. It feels like self-driving cars have a long way to go before they can widely handle some of the rural American roads.

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    Yes it's still a ways off but I think most of us will see this in our lifetime. Considering the first iPhone was released as President Obama was elected and look where that has gone since then. Things are moving very fast.

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    Swank1975 previously posted:
    "I agree Paul. In the end the insurance cost for driving your own car and the fuel costs for non electric vehicles will be luxuries only the rich can afford. I do see the day when all cars are self driving and by being 100% alert and proficient the inefficiencies of slow reaction times allow faster traffic flow on the same amount of road that we have today. To try and drive yourself will be a hazard because you cannot keep up with the traffic decision making and speed. Your electric truck will tow your classic/show/race car to the show/track/trail."

    Right up until the day that the network get hacked. There will always be those out there trying to tear down what others are building up.
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    I had to look up the Obama / iPhone comment. I was thinking - no way, iPhone's have been around much longer - but yes, they are close:

    iPhone: On June 29, 2007, the first iPhone[17] was released.
    Obama Presidency: January 20, 2009 – January 20, 2017

    As for automated vehicles. I imagine the day of traffic lite-less intersections with vehicles, nearing roadway saturation, moving near road speed in both directions through an intersection - an "inches apart" mesh cris-crossing. coolness!

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