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    Default Re: 220V oultet need wired



    GPP33 previously posted:
    "A couple small pieces of advice.

    Take a breaker down to HD or Lowe’s with you, it took me 3 trips to get ones that would work and even then I had to modify some plastic. Yours should be easier though since you have plenty of open slots, mine was full so I had to use some double breakers but they didn’t have em for my box.

    Get stranded wire. Solid is a pain in the ass when it’s that big. Individual stranded is sooooo much easier to work with. Use black for the two hot leads and green for the ground, Lowe’s and HD sell both by the foot. I used 8 gage for a 50 amp outlet and it was about $.60/ foot.

    Total for all the bits and pieces was about $40."

    This is the way to go.
    The heavy dudty will leave you more buffer for bigger machines.
    That 190 is not a bad unit but the bigger the stuff you want to work on....
    The bigger the machine.....I love that I have access to a MillerMatic 350P
    This pulls over 40 amp we know but not how much more....
    And on 220v it pulls harder....wish we had the 408v the machine really wants!
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    Default Re: 220V oultet need wired



    GPP33 previously posted:
    "A couple small pieces of advice.

    Take a breaker down to HD or Lowe’s with you, it took me 3 trips to get ones that would work and even then I had to modify some plastic. Yours should be easier though since you have plenty of open slots, mine was full so I had to use some double breakers but they didn’t have em for my box.

    Get stranded wire. Solid is a pain in the ass when it’s that big. Individual stranded is sooooo much easier to work with. Use black for the two hot leads and green for the ground, Lowe’s and HD sell both by the foot. I used 8 gage for a 50 amp outlet and it was about $.60/ foot.

    Total for all the bits and pieces was about $40."

    Do I just switch one off and pull it out, can it be any or does it need to be one of the top bigger ones?

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    4x4JeePmaNthINg previously posted:
    "Do I just switch one off and pull it out"

    Kinda, yes, though if you're asking the question I wish to say - be careful as unless you're cutting power to the whole box (unlikely) you'll be working in a live panel. You'll be removing the outer cover. Locating a breaker to remove to take to the store as a sample. Disconnecting the load line(s) from the breaker - and locating them such that they can't connect to a live portion of the panel. Then you pop out the breaker and head to the store (possibly putting the panel cover on as a safety cover while you're away from it).

    If you'd like me to stop over and show you, I could. (I'm thinking of heading out on errands this aft)

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    Thank you for the offer, but I think I would cut the power off just to be safe. I found a few youtube videos of folks installing breakers for 220v welders. It didn't seem terrible, just three wires, two hot and a ground.

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    Default Re: 220V oultet need wired



    4x4JeePmaNthINg previously posted:
    "Thank you for the offer, but I think I would cut the power off just to be safe. I found a few youtube videos of folks installing breakers for 220v welders. It didn't seem terrible, just three wires, two hot and a ground."

    Yep. Code requires the wire to be fixed (staple) to the stud just before entering each box. Also clamped entering the breaker box.
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    will stranded wire clamp just fine out of the outlet?

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    4x4JeePmaNthINg previously posted:
    "will stranded wire clamp just fine out of the outlet?"

    Yes. Really no need to shut the power off to the whole panel, just don’t touch the hot bars. Flip the breaker off and keep pushing, it’ll flip up and slide out. Once out unscrew the wire, the screw will be hot when the breaker is on so do it after it’s out to be safe. You can take any one with you, there’s several different styles and you want to make sure you get the right one.

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    If you use stranded wire it will need to be in conduit. Personally I'd use a short piece of Romex so it doesn't need to be in conduit. Where are you in FoCo? I might be able to stop by and give you a hand. If you are not familiar with working with electricity I'd recommend you shut off the entire panel before doing any work.

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    Im now in severance. I wouldn't mind someone knowing what they are doing, ide just need to get the supplies from the hardware store. I do intend to switch the main off regardless, just for safety.

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    I am in Timnath, not far from Severance. Get all the parts together and we can figure out a time. You should be able to just use the panel type to find a breaker.

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    I grabbed the same type of breaker as the 40A, I assume it's the same as the brand was identical with the 50A, build looks the same.
    Haha I haven't been so lost in a hardware store for a long time, kinda fun looking for stuff I've never sought out before.

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    Did you ever get this in?

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    No not yet, I believe i have everything though, I'll post parts pic in a bit just to check

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    am I missing anything? will need a saw for drywall, but that's about it.

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    If all you need to cut for the drywall is for the workbox, then a Jab Saw would be high on the list. Draw your cut-line on the drywall for the workbox, press tip of blade against drywall - smack with a free hand the end of the saw to push it through - start sawing - done.

    I'm was on a wiring project today - five workbox locations - easy and done.


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    That type of wire will need to be run in conduit and if you are running conduit you do not need the NM/SEU connectors or the wire staples. You might need a different box too.

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    Solid wire instead?

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    Yes and it needs to be in a sheath like this.



    You should still be able to buy it by the foot. I might even have some scrap. How much do you need?

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    Do they make 8awg wire in shielded strands like that?

    I believe I bought what I got from Lowe's cuz it was the only 8awg 50amp rated stranded wire they had. I bought 5ft sections just for versatility pending where I chose to place the outlet.

    What type of wire is that called?

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    Romex wire

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