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    Sounds more like they're going back to their roots which was pretty much like most 4x4 sites. Post info about a run and not try to be a resource as they ended up. This way they don't have to listen to people complain either.

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    Also, just a guess, A LOT of Colorado based 4x4 sites link to traildamage which uses a lot of bandwidth. The complaining thing I understand. For myself, I choose not to pay for info regarding trails. I ran trails in the 80's just fine without the internet

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    TJS86TOY previously posted:
    ". I ran trails in the 80's just fine without the internet "

    while I wasn't 4wheeling in the 80s, I know people that did. They'd show up at a trailhead with their big 31" tires to a trail, run it, or as far as they could and turned if they couldn't.

    Where's everyone's sense of adventure?

    my beef with TD is that after that fire down around north CoSprings a few years ago (Black Forest?!?!?) I was 4wheeling around Schubarth Trail that was closed. I emailed Monica with the info and she never updated the trail info. Guess I wasn't part of the elite few who were invited to be a member and therefore my info was no good.

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    For me I mostly just used the site to see what trails are close to each other.

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    ExplorerTom previously posted:
    "They'd show up at a trailhead with their big 31" tires to a trail, run it, or as far as they could and turned if they couldn't."

    I remember those days! Each to their own i suppose. I got hooked on 4x4'ing in a different generation where it didn't matter what make/model you drove, It was ALL called jeeping. Not to go too far off track here but, I think offroading developed in to many "classes" of rigs built for specific terrain. Many groups now are vehicle specific, specific tire size, specific whatever. This is why this site is so darn good, many mixes of people and rigs.

    Back to TD, Monica decided to monetize the site and more power to her. Just my opinion but I also thought there was a bit of elitism going on there but in the same token, respect the need to limit the trails runs to a few rigs. Imagine if all 172 inactive members went on one trail one , either way TD unbook marked for me and trails offroad bookmarked.

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    TJS86TOY previously posted:
    "I ran trails in the 80's just fine without the internet "

    So did I since the 60's. Got stuck a lot more then. Not sure if that's because of sites like TD or if I was just a stupid teenager then?
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    so this leaves a void in the universe that is tough to fill; traildamage has been under development for 15 years and they've driven every trail, like 380 in CO alone. One person would need like 15 years to duplicate it.

    However, there is atleast that much collective experience on this forum, and it would be pretty easy to add a map to frontrange4x4.com and a simple form to fill in trail information that would generate a standard trail page any member could create. This site could have great trail pages and everything you didn't like about traildamage you could "fix" here. Just a thought...

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    If it was really that easy it would already exist here and numerous other 4x4 sites.

    I haven't used TD in a long time, I gathered .GPX files from all over the web, loaded them into my GPS and wing it from there.

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    it is easy. When I wrote for trailsoffroad they used a simple form for all the information that generated a page. The GPS info you enter generated a map point, and you upload your GPS for the track. The tech part of it is simple, even old school. The hard part is putting in the time to make an interesting write up, enter accurate information and creating good pictures and videos. Trailsoffroad has redundancies built in before trails are posted, they really have it dialed in. I use a simple template now, it's not that big a deal. The time is the thing.

    Anyway, I was just thinking out loud, I'm not saying you should. Someone will though, I'm guessing expeditioncolorado.net, it's pretty good already.

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    What I was saying was that it's not that easy to create the form to generate the page to suit all needs. The time to gather info and input is, like you said, the real hard part.

    Personally I thought about it using 4x4colorado.com that I played with over the Winter but I lost interest as the weather warmed up. I'm done with websites, I plan to wheel instead.

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    True, the details of the form are crucial.

    Just another thought, if you did it on 4x4colorado you'd create a form, create a map and become a writer with a big work load.

    if you did it on frontrange4x4 you could create a form, create a map, turn the forum members loose on it and become an editor.

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    Paul previously posted:
    "if Jim did it on frontrange4x4 he could create a form, create a map, turn the forum members loose on it and become an editor."

    Fixed it for you Paul!

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    in his sleep.

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    TD is down this morning, I will pay for the annual but not for a monthly fee. I have used that site extensively over the years and am happy to contribute as would I be here or on other forums I frequent.

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    sort of related, used 4x4 books are a steal on amazon now, I just ordered these two for about $12.00. They may or may not be worth it, the second one is from 1963 so...

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/09...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/08...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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    Chris previously posted:
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    "if Jim did it on frontrange4x4 he could create a form, create a map, turn the forum members loose on it and become an editor."

    Fixed it for you Paul!"

    I shall regurgitate CHRIS's sage words from FR4x4's "rules" section:

    A Club with No Leaders?

    That's right, there are no designated leaders of Front Range 4x4. No leaders of any kind, no board of directors, no designated trail run organizers, no specific people doing specific tasks. There are forum administrators and moderators but that's about it. Want to organize a run? Do it! Want a special event? Organize it! All members are on equal footing and have the ability to do what ever they think will be enjoyed by others.

    "you" (in the Kollektiv) want something "done"... do it yourself.



    I think the way FunTreks books handle the situation is the easy way - sell a physical item as the way to monetize the resource.

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    As soon as I get a gps/nav unit hooked up in the old cj, I will give up my hard print maps and books. Of course, gps is way down the list behind TBI, electronic ignition, lockers, power anything...yea, I'll stick with the hard copies. FWIW - I did finally re-exhange my points out for magnetic induction ignition after the rebuild.
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    FINOCJ previously posted:
    "As soon as I get a gps/nav unit hooked up in the old cj, I will give up my hard print maps and books. Of course, gps is way down the list behind TBI, electronic ignition, lockers, power anything...yea, I'll stick with the hard copies. FWIW - I did finally re-exhange my points out for magnetic induction ignition after the rebuild."

    No cell phone? That's what I use and free avenza maps app.
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    I thought I just saw Avenza Maps cost? Did I miss something?

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    Its still free. You just can only load one map that hasn't been retrieved from there store. I get all the mvum from their store and they are free. So are usgs topos. Most everything else costs except perhaps blm.
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