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    Is anyone familiar with Parachute Hill, right near the Johnny Park Trail head on the western side? Johnny Park is closed still but Parachute hill is accessible year round and is snow free now! Pretty small area but some good fun for an hour of wheelin' tonight. This area is within a couple miles of my house so an easy getaway.

    Rock creek still had a ton of snow not far from the start. I was by myself so didn't dare continue in case I got stuck.... I bet with another rig and a winch we could get up a ways.... anyone wanna try one of these late afternoons??

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    It caught my eye the other day you mentioned Parachute Hill. TrailDamage doesn't list it. Any trail info online for it?

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    This link shows it on a map but says it's closed. It's definitely not closed, I saw multiple Jeeps up there the other day.
    https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/arp/...80700&actid=94
    There are some nice steep roads and someone cut the fallen trees so I was able to do the mini-loop. There are multiple trails, most fairly short but fun. One Trail my son and I took last summer in the '55 Jeep was long but I haven't found it again - although I'm pretty sure I know where it is and will check it out next time
    theres a big pit that looks like people play around but it looks quite challenging and I scraped my month old truck up down there a month ago.... haven't gone back in there since.

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    If one googles parachute hill colorado, the first result show it as road 329. The canyon lakes south mvum shows 329 right at the west end of Johnny Park. The mvum only shows a really short trail and no loops. My guess is all these are illegal.

    That said it sounds worth checking out.
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    I disagree, the road is signed with the road 329 marker and there are well defined trails that are driven often. There are campsites and I've seen campers there all summer. If it was illegal there would be signs posted - not sure where you get that idea...

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    A trail is illegal if it's not on the MVUM as I understand recent changes. I'm sure o eone will correct me if I'm wrong.

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    What is MVUM? There is even a sign on the road leading there saying Parachute Hill, no way it's illegal. This land is your land, this land is my land....

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    I have noticed side spurs leading to campsites are often not on the MVUM but are allowed to be driven on. Well defined trails do not make them legal and due to funding they can't block off and put up signs to notify of all illegal spurs. They seem to only do that to the most damaging ones such as leading to illegal mud pits. Typically it is best to only drive on marked trails but it does make it difficult when they don't label campsites.

    MVUM is motor vehicle use map that is posted by forest service, here is one
    https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/psicc...telprdb5177824
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    Motor Vehicle Use Map - https://www.fs.fed.us/recreation/pro...ohv_maps.shtml

    This land used to be our land...

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    "The Travel Management Rule announced in 2005 requires each National Forest and Grassland to identify, designate, and map those roads, trails, and areas that are open to motor vehicle use. MVUMs are the legal record of what motorized opportunities are available on lands managed by the US Forest Service. Locate, view, and download motor vehicle use maps here."

    http://staythetrail.org/content.aspx...dule_id=224600

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    I looked at the MVUM map and it's missing a lot of trails that are well known, like Johnny Park, Ironclads, & others.

    Im going to continue visiting Parachute Hill area, it's close, has some fun trails and the views of Mount Meeker are awesome.

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    This Forest Service map shows Parachute Hill road as open and accessible

    https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE...eprd522665.pdf

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    RockyMtRebel previously posted:
    "This Forest Service map shows Parachute Hill road as open and accessible

    https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE...eprd522665.pdf"

    Indeed it is, with dispersed camping (within 300 feet from the center of the road) along it's approximate 1.5 mile stretch.

    If you are starting to feel like this is an internet smack-down, I apologize. Most everyone here is passionate about land usage, and maintaining public access to public lands. Any decision to restrict access, by any agency, is a contentious process. As a community, we want to develop and support a culture that circumvents any argument for restricting access.

    Later this evening, I'll try to get more in-depth about the roads that are not on the MVUM.
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    Thanks! I just wanted to make sure y'all don't think I'm wheelin' on private/restricted land or something. The area is signed like any other open trails are signed and there are other signs nearby stating other trails as "No forest access" but the Parachute Hill trails are being actively used and there are no closures posted. So it's certainly open and I've seen Forest Rangers in the area last year (waving as I drove by) so I have no concerns about this area being off limits.

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    RockyMtRebel previously posted:
    "I looked at the MVUM map and it's missing a lot of trails that are well known, like Johnny Park, Ironclads, & others.

    Im going to continue visiting Parachute Hill area, it's close, has some fun trails and the views of Mount Meeker are awesome."

    Johnny park and ironclads ARE on the mvum.
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    Tom previously posted:
    "Johnny park and ironclads ARE on the mvum."

    Road 329 (Parachute Hill rd) is also on the maps on the mvum

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    Hypoid previously posted:
    "If you are starting to feel like this is an internet smack-down, I apologize."

    good point Mike, we are not meaning to bash you. Simply making sure a fellow wheeler and member don't end up in trouble and helping to keep things open.
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    I appreciate it, I have joined a few forums over the years and sometimes the new guy (me) gets annoying to some of the old timers. I'm not trying to be the know it all new guy so I apologize if that's how I came across

    I don't want to get in trouble either but I'm not worried. I live up here, I would never wheel anywhere that I shouldn't. After looking at more of the maps on the links you guys posted I do see Parachute Hill road listed as a legal trail.
    Im happy to review any info you find that states otherwise, just let me know! I thought someone else on this forum would have been on this road before.... it's a pretty fun little area

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    l just had some terrible news,so am taking the day off and heading to the mtns. Gonna try parachute. If you don't hear from me by say 4pm send rescue.
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    Hope a day in the mountains helps Tom, make sure you post when you get back.

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