Jeep Clutch Sound

[dieseldoc]

I hear you on the no adjustments making it fail faster.
Yet the clucth the factory put in these things has very little puck to them.
Messure both side as one and I bet its less than 1/4" thick.

The clutches we put in the bog trucks are near 3/8" thick each disck set. With them being duals this gives us 3/4" of pucks to have adjustments in it.
Thus why a beavy duty clutch will run half million miles and more.

[Java]

Just ordered parts for this from amazon, I don't have time to go to the store and they have good returns and such. Hopefully I got good prices, came out to about $150.00.

Anything missing? Thanks!

this is the part that failed, apparently the clutch kits all come with the OEM style that has a plastic inner sleeve. This one is all metal National 614093 Clutch Release Bearing Assembly
Sold by: Amazon.com LLC

$33.99




clutch kit, OEM. Mine is functioning perfectly, I'm only changing it due to opportunity, I don't think I need to upgrade. Not buying a new flywheel either. LuK 05-065 Clutch Kit

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$87.23


Other stuff that is just being replaced due to opportunity, all is working fine:

Omix-Ada 16914.07 Clutch Fork
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$18.84

Crown Automotive 52087542 Clutch Release Pivot
Sold by: Morris 4x4 Center
$4.99

Crown Automotive 4338855 Clutch Throwout Fork Spring
Sold by: Morris 4x4 Center
$1.99

not sure about these being part of this, but they came up in some reviews, so better to have them on hand and not need them...

2 of Crown Automotive 53004810 Transfer Case Shift Lever Bushing;
Sold by: Morris 4x4 Center
$0.99

[96EXXLTinCO]

I don't know much about Jeeps, but I'd be putting in a rear main as well. I hate dropping the trans and will replace every friggin thing I can in there while it's out.

[Brucker]

Paul previously posted:

[dieseldoc]

Aaron- the flywheel jeep used 04-06 is super hard.
But I will be surrfacing it when we do this the weekend of the 17th.
Dealerships pull them ans grind them bench top to bust the glazing off.
These clutches are so thin that if you ran the pucks off the thing wont grab at all.

Rear mains on the newer 4.ol are easy to do and much better than the older ones.
Generaly if your main seals are leaking you are high mileage and the lower crank bearings are worn thus dropping the crank just a touch and thus the seal leaks.....

[Patrolman]

Consider the front transmission seal as well. Depending on how they look, often times I will go ahead and replace them. Now is the time to do it.

[Java]

I've ordered a fuel filter and a front transmission seal, any other suggestions? Thanks for the input!

http://www.amazon.com/GKI-GF70-Fuel-...ype=automotive

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o00_s00

And a big thanks to Brandon for doing this. I was going to give it a whack myself at http://www.diyautorepairshops.com/ but Brandon can do it so much faster and more efficiently than I can (even if everything went right for me the first time, I've never done a clutch before and I'm not a real mechanic and for me this is a big deal) that his price beats it even with the higher hourly rate.

[dieseldoc]

Am happy to help you out.
I wish More places were affordable and quality.
Its rediculas how expencive maintenance has become, let alone major work....
A clutch job shouldn't have 1500 in labor....we have seen cost on the big trucks go into the 3k range for a clutch job.....

[Java]

Got some parts in, including the clutch kit with the OEM style throwout bearing and a replacement / upgrade from National. Wow, no wonder it failed. The OEM one is a bunch of stamped steel and plastic, the upgrade is a cast piece with little to fail. The difference is quality is upsetting, I can't believe Jeep used such a crappy part.

first pic has the OEM on the left, upgrade on the right. Upgrade is only $33.00.

[Robert B]

many wear parts run plastic to not damage the parts they ride on as the new one will do and mine has always made noise but works fine :P

[Java]

IDK, opinions vary. It's a common problem for Jeeps, including the JKs. Some of the posts agree with you, some are opposite, and everything in between. I have both, I guess it will be a game time decision, but I'm liking the national so far side-by-side. Mopar switched to a cast housing too, but the National gets better reviews, like this one.

[dieseldoc]

33 bucks seems little tell you multiply that over a 300,000 unit run for a year.
At 9,900,000 a year for a $33 part.....thus why the factory specs the cheaper Art.

He'll GMC in there intimate wisdom depleted the PTO heat in the alision transmission.
A $75 savings to the factory will now cost a guy $2500 to have it put back to run hydrolics.....

Wear Parts are Wear Parts. Us Heavy duty guys build our stuff to a low easy Parts changes for Wear Parts.
Like an input shaft for the transmission, undo a Snap run and out it comes....no need to open the trans do do it!

[Java]

Got all the parts in, ready to go.

[Rick]

[dieseldoc]

Sweet.
Shoour be a good day for wrenching.....

[Java]

looking forward to it, see you in the AM

[dieseldoc]

So jeep used a odd ball 8 point inverted socket bolt on the top 2 bell House bolts.
So had to put Paul's jeep back together tell next week.
Ya know the old adage the right tool for the job!
Small set back but it will go easy.

Did a inspection and he has a craving caliper on the right side,and a lower left ballpoint going bad.
Not bad for an 06 TJU
Next weekend this thing will be done.

[Java]

These are the bolts up top, if anyone runs into it too http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/w...ssion-1069058/
here they are on an LJ like mine http://www.arcticoffroad.com/forum/t...ch-replacement

Brandon- next weekend isn't going to work, it got worse on the way home the pedal feels like it's filing something, I'm not driving it any further. My wife's Xterra went to Nissan this morning for that sound I told you about so we're down to my POS DD and a rental. I need it done, its getting towed to a shop this afternoon. Thanks anyway for trying, good effort!

[dieseldoc]

sorry man. Thanks for the work.

[Java]

I've ended up DIYing this, and I'm doing a lot of other stuff while I'm at. I'm switching the Transfercase to 5w-30 Mobil 1 engine oil, and since I developed a rearmain and valve cover leak in my engine as soon as I switched it to Mobil 1 I'm taking it as a lesson and resealing the transfercase while it's out. Also cleaned, de-rusted and undented my skids.