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    I know most of us carry fire extinguishers and most I've seen are Kidde brand. Ever wonder how reliable they are? Read any of these links: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=kidde+recall&t=ffab

    While getting my CO2 tank filled today ($15.00) at Fire Safety Services in Denver I asked about their small ones and found they're built like the big ones and will last forever, can be recharged, etc. $44.00. I then found they sell used ones as well, tested, filled, etc for $20.00. Not bad at all. They gave me a mount for free since I'm a regular and a nice guy.

    Thought some other may be interested so here's their location and a couple pics of mine. Not great pis but they give you an idea of the size as it sits in my console cup holder. I'd say they're about 16" tall, 4" wide.

    Fire Safety Services
    362 S Navajo St
    Denver CO 80223
          
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    Most people say that any extinguisher under 10lbs is worthless for a vehicle fire. Also BC or Purple K is preferred.

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    Sweet score!

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    newracer previously posted:
    "Most people say that any extinguisher under 10lbs is worthless for a vehicle fire. Also BC or Purple K is preferred."

    If I need something more than a 10lb extinguisher I'm high-tailing it away.

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    I misspoke before, 5 lb is recommended. I have a 5 lb BC.

    Here is a really good post from jeepforum

    "Ok well I service and install all types of Fire Extinguishers and Suppression systems. Basically a 2.5 lb ABC extinguisher is useless and do not pass any minimum Fire Codes. It's nice cause its small but thats about it. Minimum 5lb ABC but I would recommend a 10lb if you have the room. Any make sure there is a hose with the extinguisher cause these things don't work upside down or side ways. With a hose you can stick it in, point it up kind of thing. If you got an engine fire you don't want open the hood anyways right away. You want to just get the hose in there and fire the extinguisher off.
    BC Fire Extinguishers are more effective on Flammable Liquids than ABC extingsuihers
    Purple K Extinguishers are more effective than BC extinguishers
    Halon is expensive and is to be taken out of service when inspected and can't be recharged so don't bother. This includes 1211, and 1301. The military are the only ones aloud to use this stuff.
    There are Halon replacement clean agents out there. But these are more for Computer and Electronic equipment. These are not effective on fires outside and in low temperature. It takes the oxygen out of the air. Lots of that outside. And $$$$
    If ABC powdered extinguishers are fired in an engine and it gets into the intake it will pretty much destroy your engine. There is metal in the powder than adheres to any hot surface. Not good for engines
    BC powder is pretty much baking soda with additives in it to prevent caking
    Look for the Rating on the fire extinguisher. It's more important than size.
    Example a 2.5 ABC rating is 1A10BC. A 5lb ABC is 4A40BC
    This means the 5lb is 3 times more effective at fighting Wood fires, 40 times more effective fighting Flammable liquids.
    Oh and Don't buy a cheap plastic handled, plastic valve Extinguisher. Your rig is worth a lot of money. Get one worth with a Metal handle and internals. Amerex and Flag and Sentry are all quality Extinuishers.
    Don't worry about the Powder packing or caking. Powders back in the 70's-80's did this. The new powders are siliconized(spelling?). Basically silicone is added to prevent this. Turning of an extinguisher and hammering on it is actually bad for the extinguisher and it can clog the syphon tube.
    If you fire even a small amount of powder out of the extinguisher it needs to be recharged. It won't reseal.
    Oh and Look at the date on the Extinguisher. It should be stamped on the bottom or on the Decal somewhere. Extinguishers should be recharged every 6 years no matter what.
    As for suppression systems, I wouldn't bother. The off-road systems would be the only thing I would put on a Jeep. Any there's not enough room for a 25-30lb cylinder and you would have to get it serviced every year to make sure everything is proper. Halotron or Clean agent system would be useless in the winter if your in a cold climate."


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    way cool

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    After having my front axle catch on fire, I can say that carrying a fire extinguisher is a must.

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    FRONT AXLE? Wow, of all the things.

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    I was driving down the highway on the front axle, had already blown the rear axle (somehow) and a car pulled up next to me and a woman screamed at me "Your car is on fire!"
    I immediately pulled over and saw flames coming off the diff. I think it was a trash bag that had wrapped around the driveshaft or maybe the rubber boot. The teeth stripped off the front ring and pinion gears and heated the whole thing up.

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    I had a car catch fire down the street from my place in Parker and I used an extinguisher bigger than that and it had almost no affect on it(it might have made it angry). I now have (ok I drive a 50 year old scout that has a much better chance of catching fire) one big extinguisher and a smaller halon extinguisher mounted in the scout, its a bit much but I have to assume that if she catches fire it will be up in the mountains and no where near help. just my 2cents

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    We had a rig we were supposed to work on show up on fire....from a seized brake caliper. He had driven less than 5 miles from his house to ours. I think I will cruise up there today and see about upgrading from my plastic extinguisher. Thanks Chris!

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    I need to get one like yours Chris. I have a bigger one and it is too cumbersome to fit in my rig. I agree if a small one won't work them I am getting clear! That's what insurance is for!

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