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    not much else to say.

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    RIP Brian !!

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    Sad.

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    RIP, sad story for sure. My thoughts and prayers for the friends and families of both involved.

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    We just watched Fast and Furious last night. Great movies but this shows why it is best left in the movies. Sad, RIP
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    Finally a thread about his death that doesn't spam with Fast and Furious quotes. Definitely a sad day for both him and the driver of the car's family and friends. Doubly sad because they were leaving a fundraiser that Paul had set up for Typhoon relief in the Philippines.

    The driver of the car was Roger Rodas, the co-owner of the race team that Paul had set up and a long time friend. They were driving a Porsche Carrera GT which, while it pales in comparison to the two people in it, is sad to hear the loss about too since they are so rare.

    Sad stuff, but it will be interesting to see what they do with the seventh fast and the furious movie that had already started filming. This definitely hearkens back to a similar situation with Heath Ledger and his sudden death.

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    Very sad. I have been a fan of the F&F movie franchise. What is terrible is these are 2 people who should know better than to speed on local streets. Take it to a track. It reminds me of Ryan Dunn.

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    Brad previously posted:
    " It reminds me of Ryan Dunn."

    And to me its a carbon copy to James Dean.

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    The StRanger previously posted:
    "And to me its a carbon copy to James Dean."

    Its kind of interesting that every generation kind of has their version of this one. James Dean, Ryan Dunn, Heath Ledger, etc. I guess the James Dean one is the most apt since they both occured in a rare Porsche that had just gotten worked on at a race prep shop.

    There are reports that the Paul Walker incident was a relatively slow speed accident(45mph, but on a corner marked with a 15mph warning sign) and that there are signs of Hydraulic fluid on the road, so the car may have had a sudden steering failure that may have contributed this. It was nearby the fundraiser and people saw smoke billow up and ran over with fire extinguishers, but it was already way too late and not nearly enough to put the fire out.

    Sad stuff, definitely brings things into perspective on how little it takes. A few small differences and it probably would have turned out very different.

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    Haku previously posted:
    "Its kind of interesting that every generation kind of has their version of this one. James Dean, Ryan Dunn, Heath Ledger, etc. I guess the James Dean one is the most apt since they both occured in a rare Porsche that had just gotten worked on at a race prep shop."

    With there personal mechanic in the car !!
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    Haku previously posted:
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    There are reports that the Paul Walker incident was a relatively slow speed accident(45mph, but on a corner marked with a 15mph warning sign)"

    Iv seen signs that post 45 mph and they say with that kinda damage is above 145.
    One way or another, Im sad to see him go, But,
    He defined his life, He didnt let his life define him and he died doing what he love.
    And thats not a bad way to go !!
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    No way they were going 45. You don't do this to any vehicle driving 45.


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    Yeah...that looks pretty serious. That said, the Carrera GT used a Carbon Fiber chassis that would disintegrate and deform much easier. As a material, when its structure is intact its much stronger, but once it fails it fails pretty badly and is the reason why when you see these Hypercar wrecks they may seem much worse. Here is a picture of the Carrera GT chassis...

    Bare chassis


    With just the outer bodywork off


    Obvously there is more crash structure too, but still not a whole to keep a narrow pole from ripping the thing apart. A ~45mph crash is still pretty hardcore and I have no doubt with a composite chassis its definitely within the realm of capability to have that level of damage occur. Here is another Carrera GT crash that was documented to be going the speed limit on a surface road by a fully cognizant mechanic that swerved to miss a truck illegally coming into an intersection, the car spun out and hit this pole...

    http://www.autoblog.com/2006/12/01/a...t-crash-story/


    Also, I will correct something I said before, the corner was marked as a 45mph corner, so they were probably going in excess of that, but it wouldn't have to be crazy speeds to see that kind of damage at 45-55mph. Most car accidents happen at far lower contact speeds (the speed at contact, not how fast they were going before braking/reacting) and we've all seen some pretty messed up cars in those crashes. Now imagine that crash with a light weight Hypercar.

    Since there were no witnesses no one is really going to know. Seems like mixture of bad luck and possibly a moment of bad driving. Just saying that the crash may not have been due to irresponsible levels of speed or reckless driving.

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    I heard this morning that that car didnt not have stability control and even the slightest tap of the gas in a corner above 100 would be a total lose of control ..
    On a track would be no big thing but include a tree or light pole and you have this !!!
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    Well the car could have been going sideways at 45 when it hit, meaning they would have been going faster before losing control and sliding and the probable attempts to stop the car that would have slowed the car down somewhat.
    either way, RIP and glad he did what he did while he was here.

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    The StRanger previously posted:
    "He defined his life, He didnt let his life define him and he died doing what he love. "

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    He died being a passenger, not driving. His good buddy should have used caution in a relative new car to him. Speed was a factor. I seriously doubt he loved leaving his 15 year old daughter. This hits home for me as I have a 15 year old son. Tragic no matter how you frame it.

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    No surprises:

    An autopsy shows "Fast & Furious" star Paul Walker was killed in a car crash by the combined effects of the impact and subsequent fire. Walker, a passenger in the car driven by his friend and financial adviser Roger Rodas, died Saturday when the 2005 Porsche Carrera GT smashed into a light pole and tree then exploded in flames. The Los Angeles County coroner's office released the autopsy results Wednesday. The report also says Rodas was killed by the impact.Walker, 40, starred in all but one of the six "Fast & Furious" blockbuster films that glorified fast cars and dangerous driving. Sheriff's investigators are still trying to determine exactly what caused Rodas to careen out of control. They have said speed was a factor.

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