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    Looks much better. Now you just need to weld up the extra hole in the front on both sides.

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    Hypoid previously posted:
    "I'd try and stay with the longer spring, if possible. If the width and thickness stayed the same, the shorter spring would have a higher (stiffer) spring rate.

    Since your shackle is already against the frame, I wonder how much further back the spring eye would travel if you freed it up. Also, I wonder how much that would change if you were to add another stock, main leaf to your existing pack."

    RidgeRunner previously posted:
    "Using rear springs up front is a fairly common swap on Toyota SAS's. People usually combine 2 sets to get a little more lift out of them. My 4Runner is set up this way.

    Adam, from your info your truck is a '94. The later years of P/U's had longer rear springs than what most use for a RUF set-up. I did this once on an '85 P/U. IIRC I pushed the front spring hangers out about 2.5", used pretty long shackles, and an add-a-leaf. I wasn't very happy with the set-up as the springs were very flat. I'd probably recommend picking up another set of springs and combining them. This should help carry the added weight of the front end. You could also source a couple sets of the shorter springs and use them. HTH"

    Hypoid previously posted:
    "Verrrrrrrry interesting! Adam, I have some 1/4-inch, and some 1/2-inch plate, if you feel like reworking that front spring perch."

    I actually have two sets of frame tubes. Im going to weld both sets in. I'm pretty sure that will be stronger then a plate welded back in. So I think.

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    Sorry about the quote thing I just did. Trying the page on my new phone.

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    94ToyBear previously posted:
    "I actually have two sets of frame tubes. Im going to weld both sets in. I'm pretty sure that will be stronger then a plate welded back in. So I think."

    I like that idea!

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    Got the drivers side rear spring done last night did some measurements before and after I gained 1 1/4 lift. I'm starting to smell smoke from my future camping trip!! I hope I can keep on on the role I have been in get it rolling soon! Hopfully by summer!

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    Tires and gears? Time to start thinking about thoes things I can't build my self.... for tires about the only option I would have/want due to rIm sIze (Im tryIng not to buy new rIms) is the nitto 38x15.5-15. A buddy of mine runs the same tire but 33's and he really likes them. With tire size 35 to 38 what gear ratio would be ideal?


    http://www.4wheelparts.com/Tires/38x..._pn=NIT200-630

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    94ToyBear previously posted:
    "With tire size 35 to 38 what gear ratio would be ideal?"

    The most common gear ratio for Toyotas with 35" + tires is 5.29. That's pretty close to "stock" RPM with 35" tires.

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    That's what I've noticed on alot of other yotas. Even Pete Brody had 5.29 gears. I'll research it more thanks!

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    Found a rear E diff from a 98 Trd 3.4 supper charged wIth 115k mIles. The truck was rolled over and still ran after. Guys asking 900 bucks for the whole axle drum to drum. Unsure what gears it has. Sound like a good deal?

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    94ToyBear previously posted:
    "Found a rear E diff from a 98 Trd 3.4 supper charged wIth 115k mIles. The truck was rolled over and still ran after. Guys asking 900 bucks for the whole axle drum to drum. Unsure what gears it has. Sound like a good deal?"

    Adam, That sounds like robbery.
    You can get the diffs for $500 when you want them, and much cheaper if you have time to hunt(I got 2x for $150/ea)
    You will have to regear them as well, so that is going to add to it.
    I'd cut your current axle(Which I've heard are stronger) and get a seperate diff.

    BTW, hows the kiddo doing?
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    Not sure what the ratio would be. I paid 400 for just a e-locker 3rd member with blown gears. Wasn't a big deal because I was gonna re-gear it anyway. If you get just the 3rd you will have to modify your existing housing to accept it. $900 seems a little steep but it would be nice to not have to modify the housing. At $900 it's awful close to just buying a new ARB. I'd value the housing at $150-$200 and the locker at $500. I'd be looking in the range of $650-700 complete.

    EDIT - Danny beat me to it. What he said too....

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    I figured it would be about the price of a new ARB without a compressor set up. And I would have to regear what I have now anyways. Also I like the lower mileage.. what's stronger about the 94 v6 axle to the 98 TRD rear diff?
    Also I'm kinda Burnt out at modifying and fabricating all my parts. Do you guys know what the pros and cons are. To each other other then modifying, housing and center section?

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    DANNY. Thanks for asking baby is doing great he's 8 months now! He Is pretty much my motivation. To get my Yota going... I want to make a safe andreliable rig we can both share! oh and And he like plays with hot wheels allready!

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    Adam,
    From what I've read, Tacoma rear axles(I don't know if all or if they fixed it) have a reduction in the diameter of the axle tube at the wheels.
    This transfers to a weaker housing.
    In this picture, you can see it pretty clear on the left side
    http://www.yotatech.comwww.yotatech....que-nm-252116/

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    Wow your totaly right! I see the difference! Im you guys pretty much persuaded not to get it due to price and strenth. Iv been doing more research and I'm starting to like either Detroit Locker or ARB. I like the simplicity of the Detroit! But I have also have read it's best to put ARB in front. And if you have In front you might as well put one in the rear. What I really don't want go to is ad an air pump to everything. Man all these expensive decisions are driving me nuts really. Lol. Speaking of ARB and air pumps. I ok only seen this one on Google that you can use CO2 tanks to pressurize the ARB or a CO2 from a paint ball gun.... sound lime it would work as long as its not leeking.

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    Adam,
    Here is the same axle for $500
    http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=193527

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    Yeah. I was gona get robbed! I'm lucky to have asked! Thanks a lot! Was that diff posted today?

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    Woooooohoo! Ordererd front axle rebuild kit and and high streer kit too!

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    With out getting in to its a toyota keep it Toyota.... I'm thinking about going with a 5.3 ls swap. As far as cash goes after parting scraping I'll only be in 500 or less bucks. I'm good at fabrication and done a few motor swaps so it's nothing. New. What is you opinion??? I found a a compleat. 01 Chevy suv for 2k with 101 k miles. It was rolled on the. Snow and still drives.

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    Yup.

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